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- by Knurek at 6:13 AM EDT on August 15, 2012
- Just like you say, the rip that went up is for the Game Boy version of the game, ugetab's Game Boy Color version will be up... In a year or so, I guess.
Feel free to contribute anything you want, I'll accept everything other than obvious troll attempts.
I've talked with Datschge about putting notices on the site about various player plugins, he's not too happy about that. Maybe once Rockbox (or anything else) supports M3U playlists, sorry.
- by Mouser X at 3:04 AM EDT on August 16, 2012
- Rockbox is an operating system, not a plugin. That said, there is a version of Rockbox that runs in Android (as an application), and even one that runs on the PC (Linux, Windows, and Mac). Rockbox is closer to Windows/Linux, than it is to a plugin (Rockbox even runs its own applications, like an operating system...). It is a stand-alone player, like Winamp, or Foobar2000, or Audio Overload (except that, unlike those programs, Rockbox is also in charge of making sure the hardware turns on, the disk spins, the files save/read, etc., which all of those other programs, rightfully, leave up to the operating system). But unlike Winamp etc., it can be used on numerous portable media players (Android OS based, Toshiba Gigabeat, Sansas, iPods up to and including 6th gen, and many many more) by *replacing* the existing operating system (though, in most cases you can dual-boot between the original firmware, and Rockbox, as I do on my Sansa e200, and Gigabeat S60).
My point is, to call it a plugin is a terrible misunderstanding. If Foobar2000 etc. are listed, I'm confused as to why Rockbox wouldn't be worthy of consideration as well (especially since Audio Overload is listed, and doesn't support M3U lists either...). Also, and I realize that this is only intended for comparison purposes (meaning that PMH is obviously not intended to be SNESmusic.org), SNESmusic.org lists various players, and systems, that can play SPCs. Under "Portable Players" Rockbox is listed (and even lists it as "jukebox firmware", and not a plugin).
That said, I would assume that Datschge is aware of what Rockbox really is (and thus would know it's not a plugin), which again raises my confusion. I guess, more than anything, I'm confused as to how Rockbox differs enough from Winamp etc., to justify it *not* being listed. Obviously it's not my site, and you're both welcome to do with it as you please. I'd just like to know why, exactly, you (or Datschge) wouldn't want to list Rockbox. Obviously you're more than welcome to ignore clarifying this for me (it's a "free" internet after all), but I would think that you'd want to expand your audience, by letting them know what else is out there (and especially on non-desktop PC devices).
And after all that, I'm sure I've typed too much. I by no means intend to offend. Obviously I'm somewhat enthusiastic about Rockbox, but even more than that, I'm enthusiastic that I can play GBS files on my MP3 player! And *that's* why I consider it a worthy mention, because (regardless of Rockbox or not) I can take the GBS files (and other formats) on the go, instead of having to lug my laptop around with me.
Sorry for the "mountain" of text. It's late, and I didn't bother trying to cut it down to a more reasonable size (or even read over it again to correct for errors). At least I've given all the information I felt was useful. So if after this PMH still makes no mention of playing GBS files on portable media players, then I'll know there's no more that I can say on the matter, and I'll leave it at that.
Thanks again for all your great work. I'm sorry if somehow this post is a nuisance. I assure you, I won't bother you with this anymore (except maybe to say thank you?). I appreciate your (and Datschge's) consideration regardless. Mouser X over and out.
- by Knurek at 4:41 AM EDT on August 16, 2012
- I know what Rockbox is, seriously, there's no need for a wall of text stating the obvious.
And as I've said, we won't mention any new plugin/players on the site unless they support all features needed by the site (truth be told, were it not for the fact that there are a few Mac users out there, I would remove AO mention as well), that is:
1) Game Boy (both GBS and VGM)/Game Gear (both KSS and SGC)/Wonderswan/GB Advance/NDS (both 2SF and streams) emulated formats playback
2) Support for tags/timers in both xSF and NEZPlug formats
3) Being free (no sense in giving a plug to a 5$ or so Android/iPhone app)
Let me know once Rockbox has all of the above, I'll pester Datschge to add it to the site then.
- by Knurek at 3:45 PM EDT on August 20, 2012
- You might notice that the site's frontend has gone through some notable changes - all entries (Publisher, Developer, Composer, Ripper, etc) in the set information should lead into proper SNESMusic.org page which should have links to all relevant PMH entries.
Which should make finding sets by your favorite composer/company a bit easier. :)
- by Mouser X at 12:45 AM EDT on August 21, 2012
- Regarding the newest GBS [Muhammad Ali Heavyweight Boxing (GB)(1993-07)(Gremlin)(Virgin).zip], the "Notes" say it doesn't play correctly with Nezplug++ 21.10b. Nezplug++ updated Aug. 7th to 21.11b. Does it play correctly with the newest version? I'm asking, because I wouldn't know what it's supposed to sound like either way.
And yes, I did notice the changes. I *thought* that was a new feature! It's great. It really does make it easier to navigate the page. Once again, thanks for your invaluable work on the site. I don't know why, but the GB is one of my personal favorites, so I love that the GBSes are receiving such attention. Even if you don't hear it from anyone else, please know that there's at least one person who really appreciates your hard work. Mouser X over and out.
edited 12:46 AM EDT August 21, 2012
- by Knurek at 10:27 AM EDT on August 21, 2012
- Nezplug++ doesn't seem to play the Noise channel correctly for this rip, so unless you're hearing percussion for the songs, it's not being played correctly.
- by dissident93 at 3:22 PM EDT on August 21, 2012
- Knurek, for any game in white in the release schedule, that means it has a rip available?
Because I couldn't find it at http://kss.joshw.info
The game in question is Ninku, and I see the composer tag is left empty, but I know it's Tatsuyuki Maeda (his old Wave Master page lists it for music and sfx)EDIT: I dunno if my eyes or playing tricks on me but I see Maeda there now.. xD
ALSO! Any reason why the Sega Pico is unsupported by this project? I'm going to assume that the music isnt as easy to extract/rip as the other systems.
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- by Knurek at 3:49 PM EDT on August 21, 2012
- Pico doesn't really look like a handheld console - besides, I don't see the point in adding gobs of systems without any emulated music formats, this is a music site first and foremost. :)
Yes, everything in the release schedule that isn't marked in red has been ripped, timed and uploaded.
Everything that has GBgbs or SGMkss credited as the ripper are new, never before seen rips.
I think you must have looked at the Super Game Boy version by an accident, the Game Gear one has Tatsuyuki Maeda credited. ;)
- by dissident93 at 5:42 PM EDT on August 22, 2012
- Huh, wasn't aware there was a SGB version. That seems to be what happened.
Well, the Pico uses the SN76489, which the KSS and VGM format also uses. I could always log the game to VGM in Kega (since Pico used Genesis hardware and therefore can be played in Kega), but I was just wondering if there was a way to extract all the music data in one step.
- by Knurek at 2:31 AM EDT on August 23, 2012
- I don't think so, both KSS and SGC formats are for Z80 CPU based systems, Pico has an additional Motorola 68000.
I'd suggest that you stick with VGM logs if you need anything from the system ripped.
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