Nezplug++ Issue... (GBS+Winamp) by Sonicandtails at 5:00 AM EDT on April 10, 2010
Not sure where else to look for help but here these days. I'm using the latest modified nezplug++ with Winamp and I see "Mega Man 2(1/19)" and so on for my GBS files, but hitting Next will not proceed to the next track and I cannot find a way to shadow them in to the playlist. What am I missing here?
by Mouser X at 11:23 AM EDT on April 10, 2010
Are you using in_zip.dll? If yes, that might be your problem. It's been a long time since I ran into this issue (I use things differently), but if I recall correctly, in_zip/NEZplug++ don't play nicely with each other when attempting to play mult-song files. If you're not using in_zip, then I can't say what the problem may be, and I don't have the time right now to go into any further. Hopefully that's your issue. Mouser X over and out.
by SmartOne at 11:47 AM EDT on April 10, 2010
Right-click Next?
by Sonicandtails at 1:33 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
I don't appear to have in_zip.dll unfortunately.

Trying a fresh side Winamp installation though, it's the same. However, it will work if it's the only or last track in the playlist. This can't be how it has always worked right?

SmartOne: Right click Next won't do it :(
by SmartOne at 2:13 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
There's a setting HookWinamp in the INI that must be set to enable Right-click subsong advancing.

edited 2:15 PM EDT April 10, 2010
by Sonicandtails at 2:50 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
It's enabled. None of the switches appear to do anything though, the songs by default should only loop twice but they loop forever anyways...
by SmartOne at 3:15 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
Guess it's time to blame Winamp.
by Sonicandtails at 3:24 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
Honestly, that's probably the case. Oh well, thanks for trying :) VGMstream should pick up GBS methinks >_>
by marioman at 3:50 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
It sounds like everything is working fine. NEZPlug will only advance the track if the .gbs file is at the end of the playlist. That's how it has always worked.

If you want more control over your subsongs, I recommend creating NEZPlug .m3u files which point to the individual subsongs in the .gbs file. Some examples of such files are available at this site.

edited 3:52 PM EDT April 10, 2010
by SmartOne at 4:36 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
Ah. XMPlay gives you the ability to change subsongs no matter where the file is in the playlist by right-clicking. I've become so used to it that I forgot how Winamp behaved.
by Mouser X at 10:35 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
What part of "stream" makes you think that VGMstream will play the GBS file? GBS files are more of a "synth" (generated, not streamed. Not exactly sequenced either) format than it is a streamed format.

When you say "will not proceed to the next track", do you mean the next track in the playlist, or the next track in the file? If you're on "2/19" and push the "Next" button, it should then play "3/19". It works for me just fine, and I'm using the most recent version both NEZplug++, and Winamp. If, however, you want it to move to the next song on the playlist, then you'll have to do that manually, or use the keyboard shortcuts (it's in Winamp's "about" area, I think).

To me, it sounded like the problem you were having is that NEZplug isn't advancing to the next song in the GBS file. Is that the case? My experience has been that NEZplug works fine, in any version of Winamp. Though, I think that the way that NEZplug loads the files, it could result in it playing the same song numerous times. The problem that I think in_zip causes, is that in_zip extracts the file to a temp directory, and forwards that to Winamp. When NEZplug plays a file, it does so based on memory. If the file has already been previously played, then it will skip to the next song in that file. However, it reloads the file every time it goes to play it. Thus, because of how in_zip works, NEZplug never reloads the same file (it's in a different directory every time, since in_zip, having the file reloaded, extracts it to a new directory), and therefore thinks it's playing a new file, and never skips to the next song in the file.

Why I mention this, is because perhaps you have some plugin in place (I don't know what plugin could cause this problem) that's making NEZplug think the file isn't the same file you've previously played, thus making it so that it never advances to the next song in the file. Maybe an output plugin, maybe a DSP plugin, I'm just throwing out guesses.

Anyway, since it seems like your problem might be misunderstood (is it a problem of advancing to the next song in the playlist, or the next song in the GBS?), maybe you should clarify it a bit more. Maybe the problem isn't what we thought it was. Mouser X over and out.
by Sonicandtails at 11:09 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
My problem is that I press next, it goes to the next .GBS file. I can't proceed to track 2/XX and such in a file, I can only access 1/XX and it just goes to the next .GBS in my playlist.

Also, I know that VGMstream is only for stream/pcm based inputs, but it was just an idea that it could one day pick up other game audio formats and obsolete outdated plugins such as NotSoFatso and SnesAMP.

I did try a fresh new installation of Winamp with Nezplug, and it still didn't solve the problem. Unless the GBS is the last GBS in my playlist, I cannot advance through the subsongs in the GBS.
by snakemeat at 11:46 PM EDT on April 10, 2010
If you want more control over your subsongs, I recommend creating NEZPlug .m3u files which point to the individual subsongs in the .gbs file.

As marioman stated, it's always been this way. Unless it's the last (or only) item in your playlist, the next button will not work. VGMToolbox can make generic playlists for both NSF and GBS (and the currently unsupported SGC). It uses the header info to create an .m3u with every track in the file. Listening via the .m3u playlists, you can skip through files using the next button as usual.
by Sonicandtails at 12:07 AM EDT on April 11, 2010
Sounds like a plan then. I'll start typing up playlists from now on. Thanks for the help :)
by Mouser X at 12:47 AM EDT on April 11, 2010
Wow! It took me a few minutes of hunting things down (this PC isn't mine, and is really poorly equipped when it comes to audio players), but I can honestly say I'm amazed that you're right. I guess I've grown used to gen_bktb.dll (yes, it causes crashes. I use it anyway. Easily one of my favorite Winamp plugins, ever) and keyboard shortcuts. For some reason, I seriously thought that the "Next" button progressed to the next song in the file. I was wrong. However, pushing "b" on the keyboard, or clicking the next on the gen_bktb toolbar will skip to the next song in the list.

So yes, snakemeat's method will of course work (that's what NEZplug was designed for), but if you don't want to worry about the M3U lists, use the keyboard shortcuts (with Winamp as the active window, "z,x,c,v,b" for "previous,play,pause,stop,next"), or use gen_bktb (just beware that can, and on newer systems most likely will, cause crashes. I use it anyway, and rarely have problems. I haven't used it on Win7 much though).

Wow.... Yah, I can see how my misconception (I could have sworn that the "Next" button worked that way!) would cause problems. Sorry about that. Mouser X over and out.
by Elven Spellmaker at 4:27 PM EDT on April 11, 2010
Using NezPlug++ and if I try to open another file while one is playing, it will skip tracks until it hits the end. Annoying if you want to prepare another piece of music entierly just before this one fades out. =/
by RukarioGyiyg996 at 4:07 PM EDT on April 23, 2010
Not sure if it's worth mentioning but I have a issue with NEZplug v0.9.4.8 + 2 + 19.02, the Namco N106 emulation is severely broken... It sounds fine on a few official games but some sound really bad, and most if not all homebrew songs using the N106 are completely ugly sounding now. Also, the Famicom version of Rolling Thunder 1 sounds really bad too.

Megami Tensei II however doesn't sound half bad. But the homebrew NSF's using the N106 sound really fucked up..


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