Any Last FM users? PSFs and SPCs do not work by Lunar at 6:29 AM EDT on April 7, 2008
I'm trying to figure out how I can get Last FM to pick up PSF and SPC files, as they are a huge portion of my listening habits. USF, SSF, 2SF and VGZ seem to get picked up by the Last FM software no problem, but strangely PSF doesn't, which confuses me as it's the same tagging format as other xSF formats, or so I thought. I understand SPC is a different tagging format though, so I'm not surprised that doesn't work.
Perhaps there is some 3rd party software that will pick them up? I figure this would be a good place to ask.
(obviously converting all the soundtracks to mp3 is not feasible, before anyone mentions it.)
EDIT: guess I should mention GSF also doesn't work, and that I'm using Winamp.
it all comes down to the input plugin to provide the relevant winamp metadata api to allow it to get/pass on the information to winamp when other plugins/itself queries that information.
so unless the plugin is updated to do so (like i did against in_usf) then you're going to have to pester whoever is maintaining the relevant plugins.
for spc and if you're using snesamp... you might want to give http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2125841#post2125841 a go - just have to remember to re-install it if you ever update snesamp
I thought there might be some way a plugin could just catch whatever titles appeared in the playlist, then send those to Last FM. Even if it were a bit clunky, I guess it'd work with any format plugin capable of generating titles, that way all the various proprietary tag formats wouldn't matter.
Yeah I'm using SNESamp. I installed the wrapper. Not sure what I should be looking for though... the Last FM application still isn't picking up SPCs as I play them.
that's part of why they explicitly want artist+title information rather than pulling it from any sort of 'title' for the last.fm submissions.
well as long as the wrapper is installed then any spc playback should be working correctly (unless you're doing it from the rsn?). then again i've only ever used that method with the standalone plugin (and the modifications i made of it) so it's possible the client does something else (though from what i remember the two plugins were brought upto equivalent specs a few months back when 5.5 caused certain playback detection assumptions to no longer work for all formats).
i've have to double-check spc handling but i can't think of anything that'd otherwise cause the wrapper method to not work (was the main reason that i worked on making the wrapper to begin with)
Ahh yes I use .rsn, and that appears to be the problem. I guess there is no way to get it to work with .rsn then? If .rsn can't be used then I'll just have to bite the bullet and extract the.... many hundreds of .rsns I have... erp :(
EDIT: Disregard that, Mouser X pointed me towards in_zip, and that works pretty well. The problem I'm having with it is the playlist doesn't automatically show the titles - they have to be clicked before they display. Sometimes the rars don't open/play properly either, and it's a bit slower than RSN. But alas, it's a compromise.
Or you could use in_zip. Rename them to RAR, and let in_zip handle it. Once using the wrapper, I recall that being the recommended method of playing SPCs. Mouser X over and out.
yeah, the wrapper doesn't handle rsn files (i know i'd started work on it for 0.5 of the wrapper but time has been somewhat lacking). also rsn files seem to have certain quirks which doing in_zip+rar doesn't have (rsn support was always a bit sparodic from what i remember).
if there's issues with in_zip and rar then let me know what ones (also there's a newer dev build than what's on my site which may work better than what you're seeing).
Hopefully you'll be able to get it to handle RSN files eventually :) which quirks with RSNs are you referring to? I've had pretty good experiences with the format overall. The one thing that seems strange is having to "enable tricks" in snesamp before they'll even work... not sure I understand the point of that but it's not a big deal.
Anyway, here's some quirks I've noticed with using in_zip + RAR archives so far (these are all things I haven't noticed using RSNs.)
- There's a significant pause upon track change/selection. - As mentioned above, the track names don't fill out automatically (screenshot) - Occasionally, upon opening a new RAR, the tracks do not play at all until you open the RAR again. I think this happens if a track is playing at the time of opening a new RAR. (screenshot)
can you link me to the versions of the archives that you're using (just so i'm able to try with the same ones as yourself). also what versions of in_zip and snesamp are you using? (as i've just seen that there's a 3.34 of snesamp now).
using the dev build i've got and also the 0.6.8.5 version i couldn't get it to fail playback on either of those two.
i know there's some quirks with the title's reverting when viewing the file information (alt+3) with spc (and a few other formats). the issue where it only shows the track instead of a title, i can only get if i do a select all and then a read all information on selection action (ctrl+alt+e), other than that i'm a bit confused over what's going on.
i'll have to add some more debug info to the dll and give you a build to see if it shows up any errors. btw, what version of winamp are you using? (might be a version incompatability in some code somewhere)
The problem where they don't play only happens if I try opening another RAR file while one is already playing. If I press stop then open it, it works. But then there's still the issue of titles not appearing.
I'm using Winamp 5.35 - not sure I can select all / read all information. I guess that's in a later version of winamp? Ctrl+alt+e doesn't work at least.
edit: getting the wrapper to work RSNs/last FM seems like all this would be made academic anyway, because that's really the only problem I have with RSN currently. I'm only using in_zip as there's no other choice.
just had a thought with the rar playing and starting a new one issue... might be from the AV scanner you've got installed (if there is one). other than that i'm baffled.
modding the wrapper to support rsn files isn't such a simple thing and really when i've got code in place to do this through in_zip (which is the main project) it's more sensible to fix the issue(s) in that (is how i see it).
i'll have a chat with you on irc about this at some point in the next few days if that's ok (alas i've got to do real work and my winamp client work before i get a chance to work on my plugins)
also the only AV scanner I have installed is AVG Free. could be that... I'll try disabling it and see what happens sometime.
i'm also wondering if there are any solutions for PSF and GSF too. those are the only others that don't work (that one may expect to work) as far as I can tell.