Also, PSO 1&2 Plus was released last year, around Oct. or Nov. (if memory serves me right). The original release had a mostly white background on the front, and the Plus version has a mostly blue background. I'm not entirely certain on the differences, but I do know the plus version has a few extra missions, and things like that. I think that it basically includes the stuff that PSO original could download. So, this way, you have everything that PSO orginal had, but you don't need to go online to get it. At least, I think that's the case.
I hope this answers any questions you may have had. Mouser X over and out.
do you think i should add the idsps in my torrent or not?
hmm, i will add them ;)
//EDIT: found some suspicious thing again :-/
the music-files of Second Sight... there is an echo in them (i think it it is called echo in englsih i am not sure)
they are mss-files, but if you rename them to dsp you can play them (but not quite good, check the sample Here
i've added one Music and one speeche-File because you can recognise the echo in the speech-file much better
//More not-proper-working stuff found:
The DSPs of Monopoly Party are repeating every 5 seconds the 5 seconds before and then they are playing the next 5 seconds :-/ (not exactly 5 seconds, download the sample and see (hear :P))
its a large sample this time, 12MB, the smallest music-file of the game Here
btw, i love playing with dsp-files ;)
//More Edit:
just got mail from nintendo, i've asked if it is illegal to rip the music out of gamecube-games and play them in winampo. They said it is legal as long as i dont use it for commercial things...
Kinda interesting i think :)
and i have more games that work:
Mario Smash Football - DSP & IDSP (?)
Worms Blast - ADP (cube2wav)
Crazy Taxi - ADP
Pool Paradise - ADP
Puyo Pop Fever - ADX
Second Sight - mss (rename to dsp, look above)
Naruto 2 - TRK (rename to ADP)
Monopoly Party - STE (rename to DSP, look above)
Harvest Moon - Another Wonderful Life - ADP, IDSP (?) (not arc, samp)
McGroovz Dance Craze - ADP (WTF, 450MB for 29 Tracks)
Batallion wars ADP (rename to dsp, i know, a bit confusing :D)
Casper Sprit Dimensions - ADP
Crash Bandicoot-Whrath of the Cortex - ADP
Custom Robo - ADP
Eternal Darkness - ADP
Mario Superstar Baseball - ADP
Killer7 - HPS
I'll fill the Tracker today ;)
edited 7:47 AM EST November 28, 2005
-cipation.
I've no idea what that means, and it is in my orginal list (That I need to get round to updating... I've not had time to do GCN sound ripping testing atm...)
This'll make this information much easier to handle.
plays ADX, various DSP, and ADP
uninstall in_adx and in_dsp before using this.
edited 9:08 PM EST November 30, 2005
UNKNOWNFILE, you inspired this.
Link
>Nice job on the new plugin HCS.
EDIT: I made the NGC logo earlier from scratch, so I just added the head-phones.
edited 9:48 PM EST November 30, 2005
Also, cool logo. I'm going to try and make one myself, as well. I have a few ideas...
edited 9:52 PM EST November 30, 2005
This is the crap I came up with. Going minimalist... by all means I look for other suggestions.
Also, 0.0 updated one more time (any other changes and I'll change the ver num), now times in the playlist (reported by getfileinfo) are accurate.
All ADPs seem to play significantly slower than they are supposed to play. I ran these same ADPs through Cube2Wav, and it makes the same error. If you want an example, play race.adp from Super Monkey Ball, and compare it Monkey Race here. This also occurs with Super Monkey Ball 2's ADPs.
So anyway, just thought that you should know about this. Thanks for your hard work to get this plugin working smoothly.
edited 11:10 AM EST December 1, 2005
in_cube page.
Erm it looks like the music from R: Racing is actually a DSP variant... but all the music is in one file and it seems to manage to play the first song only. (Oh in case you haven't realised, you can rename the file to dsp and it will play in in_cube).
HCS: I noticed the plugin says it supports GCM... but this file format is for game cube iso files. Whenever I try and load in GCM it just causes foobar2000 to crash out on me :/
Thanks for fixing it.
Luigi's Mansion: I couldn't find anything other than what looks like sequenced music for it... sorry.
I'll try out the new in_cube now :)
Yes, UNKNOWNFILE mentioned that to me. Bummer. Please let me know if it by chance does work with in_cube, but if it doesn't I guess that I will have to wait for someone to develop CSF. (Or whatever they are wanting to call it.)
Thanks for your attempt to get it to work. I guess I can't have everything. :)
Fixes a minor bug in looping for noninterleaved DSPs.
For a good demonstration see gcfe_bgm_evt_heron2_32k.dsp from Fire Emblem, at about 24 seconds and 49 seconds, there is a pronounced "dit" in the left channel with 0.5. This is gone. Metroid Prime seems to still loop properly, which hopefully indicates that nothing else is broken. If you do notice a minor loop issue (this will only affect the loop point by a single frame) try it with 0.5 and see if things clear up. Either way let me know.
Also, I finally got around to constructing a database for GC streamed audio.
Anyone with an account here can update it. If someone else made an entry about a game that you disagree with, or that is different in a different version, make another entry to let us know.
edited 4:17 PM EST December 7, 2005
in_cube 0.8 now up, fixes stereo in ADXs (left channel was duplicated in 0.7).
SPT/SPD pairs now loop.
I learned a bit more about their headers, it is fundamentally a packed format. The plugin now will not attempt to play SPTs with multiple sounds in them. Previously you'd get nasty sounds from these (those two large files from Bust A Move 3000, for instance).
some ADX-related fixes
This is primarily included to upgrade some "no" entries, which I'll be doing manually for some of them. Files that don't loop might be included in this if you so choose. Games with totally broken looping like Megaman X: Command Mission should remain "no".
Also, is the new coloring for them irritating? I'm not sure if I should keep it.
Also added a count to the bottom.
edited 5:06 PM EST December 11, 2005
And PokeParadox, if you're around, could you put some of the games on that list up there? Could you test them out with the latest version of in_cube? I'd copy all your data over, but i don't know what version you used or if anything has been fixed since then.
edited 5:17 PM EST December 11, 2005
When I do have some time I will test everything I can with the latest version of the plugin, and obviously post my findings. :)
Unfotunately now I'm very muched bogged down with uni work. Sorry.
My computer HATES Torrent and so do I (I get 41010329093420 viruses when I use it... how strange).
Anyway... help?
NOTE: Sorry for being annoying...
edited 7:58 PM EST December 13, 2005
And sure, you can get these files anywhere else you can find GC ISOs. Either rip them yourself or look for the scene releases.
Extracts DSPs from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Mutant Nightmare's strbgm.bin file. I think it's right, but let me know if anything sounds screwy.
TMNT3:MN extractor v0.1
Whoops, loop points were set too early in 0.0. Should be cool, now.
edited 7:37 PM EST December 15, 2005
edited 6:50 AM EST December 16, 2005
I also put all my GC audio related tools right on that page for easy access.
Also, I love horizontal rules.
edited 9:35 AM EST December 16, 2005
http://rapidshare.de/files/9451417/BGM_012.rar.html
The file has a frequency of 22050kHz, but the playback is distorted, in the game it sounds perfectly, though.
[edit]
I was looking over some other ADX code today and I think I have a better value to use for the scale, which reduces the distortion of this track a little. It still doesn't sound exactly like the OST (this is track 29, Pianissimo Epilogue), but at 22050 Hz you really can't expect it to. In any case this slightly revised decoder sounds better, I'll have it up shortly to see what you think.
edited 3:01 PM EST December 19, 2005
in_cube 0.13 now up, with a smaller scale (seems to be what bero originally used before switching to a larger value) for less clipping. Also enabled a weird track from Super Mario Strikers to play "Super_Mario_Brothers_Stream_test_L.dsp" (and its stereo twin, Super_Mario_Brothers_Stream_test_R.dsp). This is a track from the Orchestral Game Concert, which is sort of surprising... It isn't in the torrent for some reason. The track wouldn't play before because the start and end points for the loop are equal, now in such a situation I just tell it to ignore looping.
edited 3:21 PM EST December 19, 2005
edited 12:27 PM EST December 22, 2005
Check the page for details.
(Using XMPlay 3.3 and Tales of Abyss ADX files)
It's good to see the DSP plugin working perfectly in foobar with the wrapper. If only there were a native plugin for 0.8.3... and if there is, I'm blind.
edited 5:12 PM EST December 25, 2005
Includes support for the ISH/ISD pairs found in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness.
Use gcfsysd (on the in_cube page) to extract the files from the .fsys files found in this game. The header files (probably mostly named .000) should be renamed .ish to get them to play. Some files were named correctly (already called .ish) in the archives, other times I just make up names based on the order the files come out of the fsys.
SupaKitsune, please test this out and let me know how it works on the rest of the files.
But still, other than that, it works very well for the extractor's first release! Thank you very much, hcs! Have a happy new year too! ^_^'
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the looping problem is only on some songs, and on others, there's a slight jump at the loop point, and on some others, usually the ISH/ISD pairs, there is just a Pidgey's cry, and the song does not play.
Also, it seems that the ISH/ISD pair songs are ones brought over from Pokemon Colosseum for use in this game.
Hmhm...
edited 7:09 AM EST December 30, 2005
Also, did any .fsys files have more than .000 and .001 files come out (like .002, etc.)? If so I'd like to have a look at those, too. They might have more headers at the .002, .004, etc.
I may not be on IRC much, if you could send a few by yousendit so I can fetch them at any time that'd be great.
in_cube 0.16 beta 1
I made a change that might fix that loss of sync problem you're having. Without the files on hand I can't really test it, though.
No problem, I'm going to RAR up the files now, and put them on Yousendit so you can get them.
EDIT: Testing one of the desynced files...
Playing: "stm bgm B wirie.dsp" [1021kbps][31kHz][Stereo][1:04/2:02]
There, where it used to desync, it now just jumps for a moment.
Success! (Or close to...)
The ISH/ISD Pidgey problem is fixed but some files seem to extract incorrectly from the .fsys and cut off at 64 kb for the ISD/001 and the normal 1 kb for the ISH/000 aka DSP, causing what I've dubbed the 'Shadow of the Pidgey Problem'. I'll try re-extracting them, then seeing what happens.
EDIT2: http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=1643ffd594b13b297672c35e
Lairy fights, that's the one!
np: Pokemon XD - VS Mode Selection ~Rumba of Love~.dsp which is working quite well, with only the slightest of a jump.
edited 10:54 PM EST December 30, 2005
Oh, and does this file contain the unmodified .fsys files? I guess I'll know in a few hours when I have it...
edited 11:10 PM EST December 30, 2005
Yes it does contain the unmodified fsys files.
Supakitchen would like to thank HCS for working on these projects for all of us video game music lovers.
So, thank you very much!
extracts DSPs from SPT/SPD pairs.
in_cube will play SPT/SPD, but only if the file contains only a single stream. Now you can get all the others as individual DSPs.
Tested on Bust a Move 3000 (which has a few songs at the end of GameSE.spt/spd and GameSE2.spt/spd)
on the in_cube page
edited 6:28 AM EST January 1, 2006
Also, can the loop start and loop end points be displayed in seconds?
It'd be more useful to have the loop points specified in time, rather than file offset.
Maybe this will happen.
I made a change to ISH support, I don't know how well it works though because I've temporarily lost access to the Pokemon XD files.
It also contains experimental support for YMF.
Sorry about 0.16b2 reverting a bit on ISH, I don't have access to the machine I had those sources on (which also have the Pokemon XD files I downloaded), when I get back to that I should be able to get everything sorted out.
* option to play single channel from ADX (which may have > 2 channels)
* thread priority adjustment
* loop points now reported in time instead of file offset
* optional delay before fade
nothing big, just a few things that had been requested
I've noticed a small pop in "stm bgm B colosseum4", but this is not caused by the loop. It happens at 1:32, and even if looping is disabled it happens.
edited 8:56 AM EST January 9, 2006
"stm bgm B colosseum1" isn't perfect, either, there's a slight pop in the right channel upon looping, just before the loop point at 0:55, which is present without looping, as well. It seems to have been an oversight when the file was generated, as unlikely as that sounds.
edited 9:12 AM EST January 9, 2006
in_cube 0.17 beta 2, with some more RSD support (PCM now supported).
edited 11:47 AM EST January 13, 2006
in_cube 0.17 beta 3, with more RSD PCM support, and PCMs will now display their length properly.
edited 12:12 PM EST January 13, 2006
in_cube 0.17 beta 4, fixes a handle leak (files left open)
Also, on the in_cube page, you can now find a program called sfxtract which will extract DSPs from the SFX files in Batman Begins. However, it seems that the music is not in DSP or any other format I know, so this only gets sound effects. While I could extract the other files from the SFX I don't see any reason to do so now, so sfxtract will simply fail on those files.
edited 2:22 PM EST January 13, 2006
I downloaded it and checked it out, it seems that they are indeed in yet another unknown format (different from the Batman ones). Sorry.
edited 1:14 PM EST January 14, 2006
fixed a bug in ADX detection that crashes on some files that are not ADX
in_cube can play the music but can only see the first track.
Also any (Typo->)WORD on the sound format of DDR Mario Mix?
If you need the files I can supply them.
Btw I'm just taking a little procrastination here... I'm still technically over-run with coursework now and exams coming up. >.<
edited 9:32 AM EST January 17, 2006
I don't know anything about R: Racing.
in_cube does support the format (I think it's a bundle of ADXs, although I'm not really sure.) but it will only play the first song.
Sounds like a bundle of DSPs, though. What does the info window say (press alt-3 while the song is playing).
I can't remember, I just seem to remember it being ADX... But it could have been DSP >_> I'm being very helpful here huh?
EDIT:- just a note I've tried running it through adxtract before and it didn't work... So it probably isn't ADX.
edited 11:30 AM EST January 17, 2006
edited 11:31 AM EST January 17, 2006
Anyways, I haven't been checking in on the latest development, but boy has it been ruxing more and more! Keep up the good work.
Well I'll give manual extraction a go.. although I'm sure I messed up the process when I tried that a while ago.
01129800
01FD1000
02F33800
03B0C000
04C5A800
05A35000
06796800
0770F000
086C6800
09314000
0A3FB800
0AED9000
0AF24800
0B0FF000
0BAEC800
please if anyone has time, have a look if you can figure out what I'm doing wrong here.
DSP Extractor
Also in_cube 0.17 is now up, exactly the same as 0.17 beta 6.
The only problem is that it never extracts the whole song. For instance, the menu theme (a 9.65MB AIX) extracts the three ADX files - all 545KB.
Here's a download link to a larger AIX that should loop (it does in the game).
in_cube 0.18 beta 1 supports two ASTs I have from Double Dash, with looping. It turned out to be a headered block format like HPS (though with 16-bit PCM, and it doesn't loop itself like HPS so I had to do some inefficient reading for an accurate loop). Let me know how it works on other ASTs.
On the AIX front, I updated aix2adx to work on additional sections past an AIXE marker. Unfortunately there still wasn't any looping information, but since I promised looping I wrote another utility to do it.
The way the BGM01.AIX is structured is three streams, each in two sections (or "goround"s, as aix2adx calls them). The first section is what is played before the loop, the second section should be looped over its entire length. I wrote a program called adxloop which will rewrite the header for a nonlooping ADX to make it loop. It can also take another input ADX, which is the part that plays before the loop begins, which works well for these AIXs.
Here's how to use these tools (from the command line):
aix2adx BGM01.aix
adxloop BGM0100000.adx BGM0101000.adx BGM0100loop.adx
adxloop BGM0100001.adx BGM0101001.adx BGM0101loop.adx
adxloop BGM0100002.adx BGM0101002.adx BGM0102loop.adx
BGM01.aix is the original AIX. From it aix2adx will extract:
BGM0100000.adx, BGM0100001.adx, and BGM0100002.adx
which are the first sections of the three channels, and:
BGM0101000.adx, BGM0101001.adx, and BGM0101002.adx
which are the second sections of the three channels. adxloop takes the two sections of each channel, concatenates them, and loops for the length of the second section, creating a new file called BGM0100loop.adx (et al).
Let me know how this works (and sorry about the hard to read file names). I tested the generated files in in_cube, kode's foobar ADPCM player, and CinePak and it seems to work properly. aix2adx 0.1 and adxloop are both on the in_cube page.
"Mario Kart: Double Dash!!"'s ASTs worked just fine, the only exception being the outro theme which loops at 2:47 although it shouldn't.
ASTs from other games made my ears hurt a little, though... I shouldn't have the volume turned up that high...
Also included are some AIXs from Silent Hill 2. The extraction is functioning, the output files are not. I used adxloop but got some strange results, again with ear-crushing content. Yeeouch.
However, much like Ferramenta's problem... after some songs (it doesn't happen with all of them) go into their first loop, a large static blares. From there, it never stops.
However, this problem only seems to occur with in_cube (I used the latest beta - 0.18 b1). Playing the looped ADXs in the CinePak ADX player doesn't result in the static blaring loops.
I've got a DL link to one of the SEGA GT 2002 AIX files that produces the weird static loops (after using the tools) when listening to it with in_cube.
edited 8:30 PM EST January 24, 2006
Do you mean it loops unnecessarily or it should loop but it has the wrong loop point?
I'm aware of the ASTs that don't work, in_cube 0.18 beta 2 won't try to play them, they're in a different format (probably an ADPCM, but that's just conjecture).
The loop problems are due to my use of the a different value in the header for ADX looping than CinePak uses. I thought that I was being careful so the static wouldn't happen but I guess I have a little more checking to do.
Thanks for the samples, they are the fuel that runs this crazy machine.
edited 10:39 PM EST January 24, 2006
edited 12:34 AM EST January 25, 2006
Ends at 2:47, then the song starts again.
At 5:36 it ends, followed by another restart and a fade-out. Not that it would be a problem. It's a great song. ;)
I'll take a look at the Double Dash track, maybe I have the wrong offset for the loop flag.
I have a fixed version of adxloop that should clear up the problems with in_cube on looping, but I don't have the opportunity to put it up now.
After I installed the latest beta of in_cube, WinAmp stopped playing MP3s correctly. Any attempt to load them up crashed the player. But once I removed in_cube, it started working again.
Strange indeed...
edited 4:22 PM EST January 25, 2006
adxloop 0.1 is now up, which should produce files that play in in_cube. It also includes a batch file to make building the Sega GT 2002 looped ADXs easier (invoke as "splicendice.bat BGM08").
Also, I was unable to find anything wrong with the behavior of aix2adx on the Silent Hill ADXs. It seems to work as expected...
edited 5:06 PM EST January 25, 2006
I'll go back to .18 b1 and see if it happens again. If so, I'll keep going back until it stops.
(Later on)
Alright, the same problem came up in .18b1, but when I put .17 back, it was okay again.
edited 6:01 PM EST January 25, 2006