2. Isn't XMA basically WMA?
3. Last time I checked, 128 kbps WMA beat MP3 at the same bit rate, no matter the encoder. Specs of the XMA?
It would be ironic if the Xbox 360 version had inferior everything except audio.
what do you think?
Wouldn't it be funny if the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII had better audio, even if slightly? I'd laugh. Ha. (Preemptive.)
I don't think BX said that.
So far, he's said:
hahahah you think Katamari Forever is any better? it's freaking ATRAC3plus!
The game's pretty big so I'll get to it soon.
CBR, 160 on Trial, 128 on Final. Still sounds great to me compared to the XMA set.
Come on, it's not that bad.
So no, he hasn't said anything of the sort that "128 kbps MP3 is better than XMA"
2. Isn't XMA basically WMA?
Something like it.
3. Last time I checked, 128 kbps WMA beat MP3 at the same bit rate, no matter the encoder. Specs of the XMA?
True, however you're operating under the assumption that the XMA would be 128+kbits and that WMA=XMA quality-wise.
The fact that the XMA would be 128+k is debateable, as neither of us have evidence to its exact bitrate - if you can prove that it's 128+, please do so.
You also seem to think that XMA = WMA qualitywise what makes you think that? Because they've been related to each other? I think you're not factoring in they were both designed for different purposes, XMA being used for music without producing high CPU load, instead, producing consistent load so as to not impede the flow of the game, whereas WMA would be used for more quality driven implementations, at the cost of more CPU.
Just wondering, but how good would you say the quality of brstm/dsp files is?
Usually, it's 4-bit ADPCM, so it's about 1/4th the quality of it's PCM equivalent, though I'm told BRSTM/DSP can contain raw PCM as well, in which case it's as good as CD (barring the lower sampling rate).
I'd compare it to 128-160kbit LAME encoded MP3, personally.
@OrangeC: Yes it is. But anyway, we already have the SDK.
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Implies a > b.
Come on, it's not that bad.
128 kbps MP3 is pretty bad.
...it's 4-bit ADPCM, so it's about 1/4th the quality of it's PCM equivalent...
The resolution of ADPCM has nothing to do with the resolution of PCM. Different encoding schemes.
Yes, which is quite possible if the XMA bitrate is lower than the MP3's bitrate, and you pull your head out of your ass to stop deluding yourself that XMA is the same as WMA quality-wise.
The resolution of ADPCM has nothing to do with the resolution of PCM. Different encoding schemes.
Sorry, I figured it was implied that it'd be 16-bit PCM - > 4-bit ADPCM.
Do you understand now that I've cleared that up?
reference <-- Really funny! This is part 2, but part 1 is just as funny (perhaps moreso). Mouser X over and out.
And I never said XMA was exactly WMA. Just a possibility, or similarity, or likelihood. I was hoping someone could share some information.
edited 8:11 PM EDT September 14, 2010
-Atelier Rorona Alchemist of Arland (2009)(Gust)[PS3][ATRAC3][MSF]
-Chou Jigen Game Neptune (2010)(Idea Factory)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
-MX vs ATV Untamed (2007)(THQ)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
New "console" rip:
Sony PlayStation Network
-Marvel vs Capcom 2 - New Age of Heroes (2009)(Capcom)[PSN][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
"So, the FMVs in Kingdom Hearts II use headerless ATRAC3 for audio. So, I made a custom RIFF header for it. It's really just standard ATRAC3 (non-plus) so it's playable if you have the codec installed. File from the opening fmv:
PSS_9-Alt0.at3
enjoy :P"
-Another Century's Episode - R (2010)(Banpresto, Namco Bandai)[PS3][PCM][FSB]
-Prototype (2009)(Activision)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][P3D]
-Aliens vs. Predator (2010)(Sega)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Ar tonelico Qoga - Knell of Ar Ciel (2010)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
-Tekken 6 (2009)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-BioShock (2008)(2K Games)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-BioShock 2 (2010)(2K Games)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Tales of Vesperia (2009)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][Polycom Siren14][BNSF]
-Star Ocean - The Last Hope (2010)(Square Enix)[PS3][ATRAC3][AAC]
-Devil May Cry 4 (2008)(Capcom)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)(Sega)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Disgaea 3 - Absence of Justice (2008)(Nippon Ichi)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Eternal Sonata [Trusty Bell: Chopin's Dream - Reprise] (2008)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][PCM - Sony ADPCM][CPS]
-Final Fantasy XIII (2009)(Square Enix)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][SCD]
-God of War Collection (2010)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - VPK]
-Hannah Montana - The Movie (2009)(Disney Interactive Studios)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Infamous (2009)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer - Sony ADPCM][MP3 - XVAG]
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma (2007)(Tecmo)[PS3][ATRAC3][MSF]
-Tekken 5 - Dark Resurrection (2006)(Namco)[PSN][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (2009)(Sega)[PS3][Sony ADPCM][MSF]
-SoulCalibur IV (2008)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][AIX]
-Turok (2008)(Touchstone Games)[PS3][ATRAC3][SNW]
plus a lot more
.....I'm so tired....
edited 10:24 PM EDT September 15, 2010
-Another Century's Episode - R (2010)(Banpresto, Namco Bandai)[PS3][PCM][FSB]
-Valkyria Chronicles [Battlefield Valkyria Gallian Chronicles] (2008)(Sega)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
-Ar tonelico Qoga Knell of Ar Ciel (2010)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
-Mirror's Edge (2008)(Electronic Arts)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MSF]
Thank you very much !!
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The menu theme for many of the Interactive demos. This was ripped from 35.
ADP, 48000 Hz, 4-Bit ADPCM
-Final Fantasy XIII (2009)(Square Enix)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][SCD]
-BioShock (2008)(2K Games)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Dragon Ball Z - Burst Limit (2008)(Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - CRI ADX ADPCM][AT3 - AIX]
-Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare (2007)(Activision)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Fallout 3 (2008)(Bethesda Softworks)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3]
edited 9:17 PM EDT September 19, 2010
-Sounds soooo much better than the 360 XMA set
-Supported by vgmstream
-Occupies less space than XMA set
-It actually loops! (Without converting to wav and using the .pos files)
-It's PS3!!!
edited 9:15 PM EDT September 19, 2010
edit: for some odd reason, 310 - Masashi Hamauzu, Ryo Yamazaki feat. Frances Maya - Cocoon de Chocobo - Chasing Dreams for ps3 is in part japanese and part english but the 360 version is fully english, wtf is with that? and you forgot Mina in the tag, she the japanese singer
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For those who already have the files and just need a dat for the retagging, you can grab it here.
Note that it uses both the DSPs pulled from the THP videos and the AGSC Title Theme music pulled from "AudioGrp.pak".
If you're missing either of those, but have the rest of the set, you can grab them here.
-Fairytale Fights (2009)(Playlogic)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MSF]
-Madagascar Kartz (2009)(Activision)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Yakuza 3 [Ryu ga Gotoku 3] (2009)(Sega)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX - AIX]
-Call of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 (2009)(Activision)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Dragon Ball - Raging Blast (2009)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - CRI ADX ADPCM][AT3 - AIX]
-Dragon Age - Origins (2009)(Electronic Arts)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Last Rebellion (2010)(Nippon Ichi)[PS3][PCM][LWAV]
-Heavenly Sword (2007)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - IMA ADPCM][AT3 - WAV]
-Dynasty Warriors - Strikeforce (2009)(Koei)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Battle Fantasia (2008)(Arc System Works)[PS3][ATRAC3][MSF]
-Trinity Universe (2009)(Idea Factory)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - CRI ADX ADPCM][AT3 - ADX]
-Warhawk (2007)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Pure (2008)(Disney Interactive Studios)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-Top Spin 3 (2K Sports)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][FSB]
-X-Blades (2007)(SouthPeak Games)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Xiph Vorbis][AT3 - OGG]
-Racquet Sports (2010)(Ubisoft)[PS3][PCM][APE]
-Overlord II (2009)(Codemasters)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Sengoku Basara - Samurai Heroes [Sengoku Basara 3] (2010)(Capcom)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Quantum Theory (2010)(Tecmo)[PS3][ATRAC3][GSP+GSB]
The Orange Box uses PCM (or at least partially)? Sweet!
Guess you can't have your cake and eat it. Too.
Anyway, are the music tracks the APE files? If so, are they better quality than the CD soundtrack? They rearranged my network, and now torrents seem to work. I think.
edited 3:57 PM EDT September 30, 2010
Call of Duty - World at War MP Beta (2008)(Activision)[XBOX360][Xbox Media Audio][XMA]
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-Tears of Tiaria Anecdotes The Secret of Avalon (2010)(Aquaplus)[Cri APDCM][ADX]
-Bionic Commando (2009)(GRIN)[PS3][MPEG Layer Audio PCM][MSF]
-Eat Lead The Return of Matt Hazard (2009)(D3)[PS3][ATRAC3Plus][MSF]
-Enchanted Arms [Enchant Arm] (2007)(From Software)[PS3][PCM][LWAV]
-The Orange Box (2007)(Valve)[PS3][ATRAC3Plus - PCM][AT3 - APE]
-Way of the Samurai 3 [Samurai Dou 3] (2008)(Acquire)[PS3][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-ShellShock 2 Blood Trails (2009)(Rebellion)[PS3][ATRAC3Plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3]
-Ratchet & Clank Future A Crack In Time [2008][PS3][Sony ADPCM][GENH - XVAG]
-Ratchet & Clank Future Tools of Destruction [2007][PS3][Sony ADPCM][GENH - XVAG]
Thanks,
Andy
edited 6:29 AM EDT October 2, 2010
Little Big Planet:
Will the part-files be hard-coded into vgmstream to allow multi-channel playback, or would this be too game-specific (simulating the game's audio engine)? Most of the files aren't meant to be heard alone (though it is kind of cool for five seconds).
edited 5:12 PM EDT October 3, 2010
I can partially reseed. I never downloaded the whole thing.
EDIT: And then no one wants what I'm offering (or you're all un-connectible)
edited 6:22 PM EDT October 4, 2010
Also, the .scds are treated as mp3s in Winamp also, so if what Knurek says is true this would be why no one seems to be getting it to work :)
Is .scd a recent or old extension as handled by vgmstream? I have r824 atm. Maybe I should update?
@Judgetto: I've noticed not everyone here keeps an always on connection, so just keep it there and it'll be grabbed eventually, I'd wager.
Should definitely work with .SCD
Now I'm -really- confused.
Rapidshare
Depositfiles
The two discs have identical music archives.
The musicbox rendition of "Vampire Killer" seems to be stored in an XMA file in the *.packed files (where all the non-voice SFX apparently are).
Here's a set of the same OGGs at higher bitrates, presumably due to some conversion on the part of the uploader. Whether that actually does anything is totally beyond me:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
incidentally, here are two separate but likely very similar lossy rips of the soundtrack CD from the LE:
Lossy rip, one dude's version
Lossy rip, another dude's version(mirror: Mediafire)
As for the music itself....well, I am not even remotely impressed. Supposedly there are several Castlevania themes in there, but the only ones I can tell are those I already knew were in there (the poor arrange of the waterfalls theme from SCIV and the pitiful Vampire Killer cameo in the music box level)
edited 2:00 AM EDT October 6, 2010
It's great music. It's well done and well-produced, even if it lingers on some generic Hollywood/VG strings for a while. It'll never be a favorite of mine but, clearly, its biggest sin is sounding nothing like a Castlevania score. Outside of that fact, I don't know why you insist on trashing it. Disconnect your expectations from your experience.
-[RQ] War of The Monsters [Kaijuu Daigekisen] (2003)(SCEE)[PS2][Sony ADPCM][VPK]
-Backbreaker (2010)(NaturalMotion)[PS3][MPEG Layer Audio][FSB]
-Beijing 2008 (2008)(Eurocom)[PS3][ATRAC3Plus - Eurocom ADPCM][AT3 - MUSX]
-Castlevania Lords of Shadow (2010)(Konami)[PS3][Xiph Vorbis][OGG]
-G Force (2009)(Eurocom)[PS3][ATRAC3Plus - Eurocom ADPCM][AT3 MUSX]
-Jurassic The Hunted (2009)(Activision)[PS3][MPEG Layer Audio][MP3]
-God of War Collection (2009)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - PCM - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - APE - VPK]
-Armored Core - For Answer (2008)(From Software)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (2009)(Tecmo)[PS3][ATRAC3][MSF]
I had to delete them at one time, would be spiffy to have them back. :)
edited 2:42 AM EDT October 10, 2010
-Ridge Racer 7 (2006)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - VAG]
-Eternal Sonata [Trusty Bell - Chopin's Dream - Reprise] (2008)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - CPS]
-Split Second (2009)(Disney Interactive Studios)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - FSB]
-Bakugan Battle Brawlers (2009)(Activision)[PS3][PCM][PAST]
-Initial D Extreme Stage (2009)(Sega)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][AIX]
-MotoGP 09-10 (2010)(Capcom)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Xiph Vorbis][AT3 - OGG]
-Pain (2007)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PSN][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3]
-BIT TRIP BEAT (2010)(Gaijin Games)[iPhone][Xiph Vorbis - PCM][OGG - WAV]
-Pilgrim's Punch Out (2010)(Blockdot)[iPhone][AAC][M4A]
-Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars (2010)(Rockstar Games)[iPhone][Apple CoreAudio][CAF]
-Grand Theft Auto IV + Episodes From Liberty City (2008 2010)(Rockstar Games)[PC][IMA ADPCM][IVAUD]
-NOBY NOBY BOY (2010)(Namco Bandai)[iPhone][Apple CoreAudio][CAF]
-TRON (2010)(Disney)[iPhone][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
edited 11:03 PM EDT October 11, 2010
WWE Legends of WrestleMania (PS3) or (XBOX360)
Is it possible? Please help me ^^ Thank you~!
edited 12:05 AM EDT October 12, 2010
-Tekken 5 - Dark Resurrection (2006)(Namco)[PSN][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
Blazing Souls Accelate (2009)(Idea Factory)[PSP][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
Decode to .wav with the newest version of HiMDRenderer, and use these .pos files to get them to loop.
I figured it would be best to keep the file size down and make separate archives for the different voice tracks.
Kirby's Epic Yarn (Keito no Kirby)(2010)[WII][Nintendo DSP][BRSTM] part1
Kirby's Epic Yarn (Keito no Kirby)(2010)[WII][Nintendo DSP][BRSTM] part2
Kirby's Epic Yarn (Keito no Kirby)(2010)[WII][Nintendo DSP][BRSTM] part3
Voices (Japanese)
Voices (English)
Voices (Spanish)
Voices (French)
-Disgaea 3 - Absence of Justice [Makai Senki Disgaea 3] (2008)(Nippon Ichi)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Dynasty Warriors - Gundam (2007)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Mobile Suit Gundam - Crossfire [Mobile Suit Gundam - Target in Sight] (2006)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][CRI ADX ADPCM][AIX]
-Start the Party (2010)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3 - MSF]
-Terminator Salvation (2009)(Equity Games)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer - PCM][AT3 - MSF]
-Uncharted - Drake's Fortune (2007)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - XVAG]
-Uncharted 2 - Among Thieves (2009)(Sony Computer Entertainment)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - Sony ADPCM][AT3 - XVAG]
-Naruto Shippuden - Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 [Naruto Shippuden - Narutimate Storm 2] (2010)(Namco Bandai)[PS3][Polycom Siren14][BNSF]
-WET (2009)(Bethesda Softworks)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3]
-WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010 (2009)(THQ)[PS3][ATRAC3plus - MPEG Audio Layer][AT3 - MP3]
-Yamasa Digi World SP - Bounty Killer (2008)(Yamasa)[PS3][ATRAC3 - Sony ADPCM][MSF]
-Saki Portable (2010)(Alchemist)[PSP][ATRAC3plus - CRI ADX ADPCM][AT3 - ADX]
-DJ Max Portable 3 (2010)(Pentavision)[PSP][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
-Sacred Blaze (2009)(Flight Plan)[PS2][SPU2 - Sony ADPCM][PSF2 - SS2 - GENH]
-BIT TRIP BEAT (2009)(Gaijin Games)[WiiWare][Nintendo DSP][RWAV]
-BIT TRIP CORE (2010)(Gaijin Games)[WiiWare][Nintendo DSP][RWAV]
-BIT TRIP VOID (2010)(Gaijin Games)[WiiWare][Nintendo DSP][RWAV]
-BIT TRIP RUNNER (2010)(Gaijin Games)[WiiWare][Nintendo DSP][RWAV]
Any chance of seeing Bad Company 2 or Dark Siders?
-WipEout HD + Fury (2009)(Sony Computer Entertainment Europe)[PSN][MPEG Audio Layer][MP3]
-Melty Blood - Act Cadenza (2006)(Ecole Software)[PS2][CRI ADX ADPCM][ADX]
-Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 1 (2010)(Sega)[XBLA][CRI ADX ADPCM][AAX]
-Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 1 (Beta) (2010)(Sega)[XBLA][CRI ADX ADPCM][AAX] <- original set that I released back months ago renamed to beta as the offical xbox live release has a couple of new tracks.
-Lord of Arcana (2010)(Square Enix)[PSP][ATRAC3plus][AT3 - SCD]
-K-On! Houkago Live!! (2010)(Sega)[PSP][ATRAC3plus][AT3]
edited 11:57 PM EDT October 16, 2010
Edit: I don't remember there being a Cut Scene song in the game.
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