HCS Forum - The Official 2sf/NDS Music/HN Thread

by jurassicPieter at 7:27 AM EDT on July 28, 2009: Are you sure? It's not in my mini-games list, but it is used in Super Mario 64 DS.

edit: checking http://www.mariowiki.com/Mini-games
ok, now I see it's only used when playing against someone else.

edited 7:32 AM EDT July 28, 2009
by marioman at 6:10 PM EDT on July 29, 2009: vio2sf v0.20 released. It supposedly fixes the _lib2 tag problem that Knurek mentioned earlier. I am not sure which 2SF sets use _lib2 tags, so I can't test it for myself.

edited 6:10 PM EDT July 29, 2009
by holyice7 at 8:05 AM EDT on August 8, 2009: The final laps on MKDS are awesome. The Mario Kart 64 still needs those, though. What's up with those?
by arbingordon at 4:23 PM EDT on August 8, 2009: they've been up on the usf page since its creation, ripped by ugetab, however they don't have proper timers (just copied over from their non-final lap versions)

and to be sure, since you wouldn't link me to you're *final* tagged set for Banjo-Tooie (and for that matter Banjo-Kazooie), is it safe to assume that this and this are the most "up-to-date" versions?
by holyice7 at 5:57 AM EDT on August 9, 2009: As of one minute from now, they will be...well, at least the way you want them. They were already updated as far as names, but I put in your unsplit dynamic tracks as well this time. Was that it, or did you have any other games I needed to do something for as well?

Oh, also; heed the warning in the readme, since the .libs aren't the same.
Tetris DS by jurassicPieter at 7:38 AM EDT on August 9, 2009: here's tetris ds.
Strangely enough the volume controller is missing for DK Push and i can't figure it out what causes this to happen. DK Push is a disaster to split.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DW1H5C2H

Also for mario kart 64, there are versions of sped up tracks that don't exist, but that's usf, not 2sf.
The final mario kart ds version only has mission mode, battle mode and boss battle sped upo and i'm not sure whether it was used or not.
by arbingordon at 1:05 AM EDT on August 11, 2009: I think ugetab kept them as they were still in the games code and rippable to usf (similar to keeping all-in-one dynamic tracks).
by Dais! at 1:06 AM EDT on August 16, 2009: time for another round of "dais hasn't been paying attention at all"!

Is there a list of the exact capabilities of VGMToolbox anywhere?

I'm specifically curious if it can replace the VGMTrans ability to play some streams from just opening the DS ROM, as well as being able to export the individual sequences and sample files. It'd also be nice if it could also extract sequence files, but I can always use something else for that.
by snakemeat at 2:27 AM EDT on August 16, 2009: Is there a list of the exact capabilities of VGMToolbox anywhere?

No, I've got a WIP manual available in SVN, but it is incomplete. I've uploaded it here in case you don't use SVN. For now, think of the rest of the app as an Easter Egg. For most tools, I try to have a brief description of what it does, as well as any warnings or notes, in the output area.

I'm specifically curious if it can replace the VGMTrans ability to play some streams from just opening the DS ROM, as well as being able to export the individual sequences and sample files. It'd also be nice if it could also extract sequence files, but I can always use something else for that.

VGMToolbox cannot play straight from the game image. Using the SDAT Finder (to get SDATs out of the game image) and SDAT Extractor (to extract the SDAT contents) [Misc. Tools > Extraction Tools > Nintendo DS], however, will pretty much do everything else. It will extract all sequences, streams, banks, and additionally unpack the SWARs (wave archives). The STRMs and SWAVs (found in SWARs) can both be played with vgmstream.

There is currently a known issue with the SDAT Finder not finding SDATs in game images that have fake or bad SDATs. You can get the fixed version from SVN or wait for the next release.

edited 2:28 AM EDT August 16, 2009
by Dais! at 3:47 AM EDT on August 16, 2009: Neat, thanks!

Fake or bad SDATs? Are we talking something caused by poor programming or a bad dump?
Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver by agu fungus at 7:34 PM EDT on September 10, 2009: 2SF set for Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver now available for download:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CVVFBT87

Now we will have to wait until the end of the month for the official CD track names.
by Omochao at 9:50 PM EDT on September 10, 2009: Thanks!

03f4 - Evolution
03f5 - Bicycle
03f6 - SURFing
03f7 - Hall of Fame
03f8 - Ending
03f9 - The End!
042a - Elm's Lab
042b - Proffesor Elm
042c - Sprout Tower
043f - Follow Me!
044b - Pokemon Lullaby
044c - Pokemon March
044f - Oak's Lab
046b - Gym Leader Defeated
0427 - PokeCenter
0431 - Ruins of Alph
0432 - Ruins of Alph interior
0437 - Rocket Base
0442 - Contest Intro
0444 - Bug-Catching Contest
0446 - Team Rocket!
0448 - S. S. Aqua
0464- Champion Battle
03fa - New Bark Town
03fb - Mahagony Town
03fe - Goldenrod City
03ec - Opening
03f0 - Pokemon Theme
03f1 - Menu
040d - Lake of Rage

Also, everything from 04c2 up is the ORIGINAL soundtrack.
by holyice7 at 11:30 PM EDT on September 10, 2009: I'll start working on them now. I'm sure I'll be at a loss for the new stuff, though a lot of the Battle Zone stuff sounds the same, as well as what I assume is the wireless plaza crap.

I went through and typed up some tags for a Gold, Silver, and Crystal soundtrack I put together in May for a friend, so I can probably get away with using those for rudimentary tags for now.

Either way, thanks, and compliments on your speed.
by VixyNyan at 7:34 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: I have finished tags and timed tracks for Heart Gold and Soul Silver already. Please upload my tagged rip to the site. ^^

http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/

Love and kindness,
Rebecca
by agu fungus at 8:00 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: ^ Sorry, no duplicate tracks. Tag my set instead.
by VixyNyan at 8:06 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: OK, I'll remove the duplicates, re-tagging and re-upload my set tomorrow. ^^
by agu fungus at 8:21 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: I think it would save you more time if you tagged my set instead. All duplicates are removed (I had to do it manually, because VGMToolbox failed to detect them all).
by VixyNyan at 8:43 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: Actually, we're saving more time with my set. I already took care of copyright info, timing and other things that fits the 2sf archive standards. All I have to do is delete the duplicates and just do very small changes to the file names. Some of it I did manually too, and I worked so hard to make this as acceptable as possible. I've always wanted to submit something to the 2sf archive with my name on it, and this is my first 2sf rip ever. ;^;

- Rebecca
by agu fungus at 9:02 PM EDT on September 12, 2009: All right, but as advice, make sure that Route 29 doesn't come first in the set, as 03E8 or 03EB (I don't remember), but as 0404, so that the 03EC and 03FO come first instead (the Opening and Title songs, respectively). There should be a total of 286 songs.
by VixyNyan at 7:40 AM EDT on September 13, 2009: Thank you for the advice. I fixed, re-tagged and re-numbered everything. Look at that link of mine again. ^^

Um, is it OK if I rip 2sf from other games? o.o
by bxaimc at 11:01 AM EDT on September 13, 2009: Sure you can. Just make sure it hasn't been ripped yet. You don't necessarily have to tag everything you rip. You can always join #console_stream on irc.foreverchat.net if you need help. Mibbit Link

edited 11:50 AM EDT September 13, 2009
by Rfi at 9:12 PM EDT on September 18, 2009: Does anyone have the 2sfs of Suikoden Tierkreis (J or U, doesnt matter to me) someone posted back in January saying they had ripped it. Thanks.
by VixyNyan at 6:58 AM EDT on September 19, 2009: I have my own 2sf rip on my WIP folder:
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/WIP/

I hope to get my hands on the OST to fix the song names. ^^
by Tanookirby at 5:25 PM EDT on September 21, 2009: My winamp keeps crashing when I try to play a 2sf file when Pacemaker 2.2 is active. What is going on?
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this" by hcs at 5:35 PM EDT on September 21, 2009
by bxaimc at 8:19 PM EDT on September 21, 2009: Pacemaker is obviously causing an interference. Perhaps disabling it will solve the problem.
by snakemeat at 9:56 PM EDT on September 21, 2009: Are you using Pacemaker near a microwave?
by hcs at 10:15 PM EDT on September 21, 2009: Offhand I can think of a few things: if it's trying to find a ratio for converting some of the weird frequencies the DS uses to something like 44100 it might be flipping out (some output plugins used to do this with 64th Note).
Alternatively, the 2sf player might not be set up correctly for DSP plugins.
by bxaimc at 11:09 PM EDT on September 21, 2009: lol @ snakemeat
by agu fungus at 10:51 PM EDT on September 24, 2009: I don't know if this is right to ask this, but, is there any chance that vio2sf can have interpolation support for its next release, just like DeSmuMe currently has? Just asking.
by JILost at 12:16 AM EDT on September 25, 2009: I don't think anyone knows who actually makes vio2sf other than the vague identity of "mysterious plugin guy", but hopefully that person is reading this thread.
by Mouser X at 12:44 AM EDT on September 25, 2009: Generally, I've seen them refered to as "pluginja", because no one knows who does it. But, I'm pretty sure that the reason you don't see such an option (interpolation) is because vio2SF is using an old version of DeSmuMe, which didn't have support for that. SmartOne (I think it was him, I'm not 100% certain) attempted to use the current version of DeSmuMe to update vio2SF, but was unable to figure out the gobleygook that is the source code to vio2SF. I know a few other people that took a look at the source code, and they said it wasn't pretty. So I'm inclined to think that, in its current state, it's a bit of a mess, and difficult to update the NDS core (DeSmuMe) to a newer version.

Hopefully I'm wrong (or that pluginja has an idea of what's going on in the code), and it can be updated with a new DeSmuMe core. I've heard that the newer version of DeSmuMe has a lot of improvements to the audio emulation. Mouser X over and out.
by Omochao at 10:56 PM EDT on October 11, 2009: Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hbnzon
by SmartOne at 2:35 PM EDT on October 12, 2009: Ha, not me. I'm the one who messed around with Highly Advanced and got nowhere. Yay.
by Sir-Sabin at 2:44 PM EDT on October 12, 2009: Mario & Luigi - Bowser's Inside Story:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tbjyln2nozj

SaGa 2 Hihou Densetsu Goddess of Destiny:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?vjouhzwzqix

Enjoy

edit: they need to be tagged

edited 2:45 PM EDT October 12, 2009
by Omochao at 4:04 AM EDT on October 13, 2009: Bowser's Inside Story tagged:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/465gjr

Also, there is a problem with Mario & Sonic: BGM_Staff_Roll plays silence for some reason.
by Sir-Sabin at 11:15 AM EDT on October 13, 2009: you just renamed then and didnt tag them

Edit: i tagged it, it took me a sec to do it

Mario & Luigi - Bowser's Inside Story (2SF): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tqtmyzjk5jz

edited 11:53 AM EDT October 13, 2009
by Lunar at 12:47 PM EDT on October 13, 2009: thanks Sir-Sabin. yes, that's not the first time either... it isn't rocket science, goddamn.
by agu fungus at 1:46 PM EDT on October 13, 2009: 2sf/STRM set for Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road is now available. Tags needed.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7OUWGH70
by Sir-Sabin at 2:33 PM EDT on October 13, 2009: i tagged SaGa 2 Hihou Densetsu Goddess of Destiny

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?uwrnyy4mtwy
by ugetab at 2:58 PM EDT on October 13, 2009: Bowser's Inside Story sounds a touch echoish, but that could easily be the player, or the tracks I've been listening to previously.

I'm happy to have a copy of the 2sf set now. I've been playing Skawo90's Jap walkthrough video of the brain battle for the boss theme previously. Normal mario battle theme sounds the farthest from what I'm accustomed to.
by kode54 at 3:07 PM EDT on October 16, 2009: Edit: i tagged it, it took me a sec to do it

You missed one, "Battle End."
by Sir-Sabin at 6:14 PM EDT on October 16, 2009: fixed thx for finding it

new link: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lgjon03m5mu
RIZ-ZOAWD by agu fungus at 7:04 PM EDT on October 19, 2009: Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road 2sf/strm rerelease. Now with complete tags based on the CD soundtrack. Get it here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z5KEJUJX
by VixyNyan at 11:20 AM EDT on October 25, 2009: Nostalgia ripped. ^^

http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/
by agu fungus at 12:43 PM EDT on October 27, 2009: Vio2sf 0.22 and viogsf 0.05 are currently released.

There's also an experimental hack of vio2sf that finally adds interpolation. Here's hoping that the next version gives us an option to select interpolation in the plugin.
by agu fungus at 5:17 PM EST on November 2, 2009: Back to Mario & Luigi RPG 3, can someone PLEASE, add numbers to the tracks? It's too difficult know the right order.

edited 5:29 PM EST November 2, 2009
by Sir-Sabin at 5:43 PM EST on November 2, 2009: i cant be much help, i haven't gotten far in it and i'm busy with Forza 3 and then to come out tommorrow COD: Modern Warfare 2
by agu fungus at 7:29 PM EST on November 2, 2009: Um, OK. In the meanwhile, five stream songs that were forgotten to include in the M&LRPG3 set:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VE2A9R8V
by Sir-Sabin at 1:30 AM EST on November 4, 2009: doh, i dunno how i missed those.
by Dais! at 6:45 AM EST on November 11, 2009: could someone do me a (hopefully) quick curiosity-satisfying favor and tell me how big the 2sflib for Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia is if you just reduce it to the classic tracks? (301-309)

(I mean, I assume you can do that, like with GSF files and such...)
by Jackano at 2:47 AM EST on November 12, 2009: Hello guys,
Could someone take a look at the last Tingle game (released in August in Japan!!)? Or at least point me out a decent 2SF ripping guid... I already tried several times in the past few years with GSF and 2SF but I'm not really good at that ^^

Come on please, it's sort of Zelda stuff here! ^^"
Thank you!
by VixyNyan at 11:32 AM EST on November 12, 2009: Rockman EXE Operate Shooting Star 2SF
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/WIP/

I will tag every track, then I will move it to the "official release" folder. I hope it to be added to the rip list later. ^.^

edited 3:55 PM EST November 12, 2009
by agu fungus at 11:37 AM EST on November 12, 2009: I HAVE COMPLETION!

Complete and final version of the Mario & Luigi RPG 3 2sf set. Have enjoyment!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b8usaw

edited 11:39 AM EST November 12, 2009
by VixyNyan at 3:54 PM EST on November 12, 2009: Operate Shooting Star is tagged with OST track names now. ^^
http://lol.rockmanpm.com/2SF/

edited 3:55 PM EST November 12, 2009
by Lunar at 6:50 PM EST on November 12, 2009: is anyone curating the 2sf stuff at the moment? :x
by Mouser X at 7:59 PM EST on November 12, 2009: I think bxaimc is supposed to be. I know hes updated the page once or twice. Often, "they" like to collect a bunch of 2SFs, and do a big update. If you're really impatient though, you can try talking to bxaimc on IRC. Though, he's been gone for a week or 2 (or something), so maybe that's why you haven't heard from him. Mouser X over and out.
by Dais! at 1:55 PM EST on November 13, 2009: hey Jackano, did you notice that a soundtrack was released for Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love along with a strategy guide?

http://vgmdb.net/album/15845

not suggesting it as a replacement for someone helping you do a 2sf rip, just pointing it out if you hadn't seen it. Assuming that I'm really seeing a 1,100 yen price for the guide AND CD, that's a pretty damn good deal.

VixyNyan, I can't access any computers with 2sf playing capabilities right now and for probably a while. How does the audio quality of Shooting Star stand up to the DS port of Mega Man Battle Network 5? What I heard of the demo sounded almost like the GBA games, but I figured that might be from the small size of DS download demos.

(I know better than to hope they actually remixed or lengthened any of the songs)
by arbingordon at 2:39 PM EST on November 13, 2009: mouser, you forgot an apostrophe

:p
by Knurek at 4:07 PM EST on November 13, 2009: bxaimc's splendid work at keeping the site alive kind of makes me think of coming back.

Kind of. For now.
http://vgmdb.net/album/15845 by Jackano at 5:05 PM EST on November 13, 2009: Thanks Dais but I already noticed that! The sad thing is, I actually ordered it at play-asia.com weeks ago but they canceled my order due to the fact that they were out of stock!

If anyone knows where I can buy or download it (alongside the guide), I would love to know ^^

EDIT: Nevermind, I just remember yesasia.com, and they have it. I hope my order will be Ok this time and I will probably receive it earlier enxt month. TY!

edited 5:46 PM EST November 13, 2009
by VixyNyan at 4:18 PM EST on November 15, 2009: @Dais!: Besides the title theme, the soundtrack isn't remixed at all. >.<
by lordskylark at 5:37 PM EST on November 19, 2009: Can Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Echoes of Time be uploaded now that its past the "cannot list yet date" ?
by bxaimc at 8:57 AM EST on November 20, 2009: It'll be up on the next update then :P
by Knurek at 6:47 AM EST on November 21, 2009: To save some time:
Wizardry: Inochi no Kusabi - Procyon Studio Custom
Umihara Kawase Shun - Second Edition Kanzenban (2009)(TNN)(Suzak)(Marvelous): http://www.sendspace.com/file/rtq9ha
by Sir-Sabin at 4:17 AM EST on November 28, 2009: i have ripped Call of Duty Modern Warfare Mobilized, Phantasy Star Zero,Rockman EXE Operate Shooting Star, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Arcade Attack and Assassins Creed II Discovery. if you want the links just ask me
by Sir-Sabin at 6:17 PM EST on November 29, 2009: well, im got to post where they are and you can use the link to check what else i put on there

Link

Enjoy

*note they arent tagged
by JudgeIto at 2:05 AM EST on November 30, 2009: Oh wow, they really didn't update a thing for those Rockman EXE songs. Some of them sound worse.
by Omochao at 1:54 AM EST on December 1, 2009: Don't know if they sound any worse, but they sure aren't any better, unlike MMBN5 Double Team.
Busy Designing... by Ice_Pegasus at 7:11 AM EST on December 2, 2009: Hey! I know you may not need a new 2sf archive site, but cuz im bored, im creating my own! It'll be a mirror to the current site. Coded in asp.net mvc.

Tell me what you think of it

(Sorry the image is pretty big, spread over 2 monitors)

http://i49.tinypic.com/1yv97k.png

(Edit)

OK BrainWave! What Do You Think Of An Online 2SF Player? That plays 2sf's from a Server, to your webbrowser? Could it be done? Somehow recoding vio2sf to C#, then to include the code into ASP.Net and then get it so when it runs on the server it outputs to streamed mp3, which streams and loops? Or Even Ogg, if an online Ogg player can be made?

edited 7:40 AM EST December 2, 2009
by unknownfile at 10:12 AM EST on December 2, 2009: we use php round these parts boyo

also vio2sf could be ported to java or whatevers but who knows
by Ice_Pegasus at 10:30 AM EST on December 2, 2009: XD Well who cares. doing it for a project for school XD

ill have to look into it. if it can be ported to java, its gonna be alot easier.

Oh and BTW the Rockman Exe Operation Shooting star rip.....well no offence but it sucks!!!! Wow capcom really stuffed this one up! (Huge Rockman Fan Here)
by asdf at 12:29 PM EST on December 2, 2009: asp net = m$ / proprietary(ish?) which isnt inline with this site i think
by SmartOne at 3:07 PM EST on December 2, 2009: On-line 2SF player? Uh, why?
by Ice_Pegasus at 1:32 AM EST on December 3, 2009: On-line 2SF player? Uh, why?

Well i think it it would be a great project to do. and this way you can listen to 2sf files streaming from anywhere. Some mobile phones support streaming, so if you connect to the streaming from the phone, you'd be able to listen to 2sf files on the go! That would be the idea....

Edit:

Yeah well i like ms, so shoot me XD

edited 5:31 AM EST December 3, 2009
by SmartOne at 7:14 PM EST on December 3, 2009: You said it would be streaming MP3s anyway. It would be more efficient to create your own collection of MP3s from the archive.
by Ice_Pegasus at 1:55 AM EST on December 4, 2009: Yeah but most mobile phones cant stream mp3 files, and if they do, it takes a long time to buffer. I was thinking maybe output to m4a, a much smaller and efficient format. And rather than taking every single 2sf file and converting it in winamp of something, just let the server run the script, which would enable to get the m4a file on the go. Once the user is inished, it will delete the temp m4a file. This, saving server space. I can only find asp.net mvc hostes with like 500 mb of data as a free host, which would require me to upload the 2sf files in a database elsewhere, like on my current host, and set the connectionstrings of the web.config to point to that server.
by asdf at 9:02 AM EST on December 4, 2009: m4a blows
ogg ftw
by Sir-Sabin at 12:05 PM EST on December 4, 2009: i have ripped The Legend of Zelda Spirit Tracks, Avatar The Game and Pawa Puro Kun Pocket

Link

under 2sf

enjoy
by Jackano at 4:08 PM EST on December 5, 2009: Well done Sir, thank you very much for Spirit Tracks.
The main theme and the entiere OST seems to be better than Phantom Hourglass!
by marioman at 5:37 PM EST on December 5, 2009: Thanks for the rips Sir-Sabin. Lots of good stuff there.
by Knurek at 8:37 AM EST on December 6, 2009: Hmm, seeing as you seem to care about 2sfs more than bxaimc does, maybe you'd like to take care of Manly updates?
by Elven Spellmaker at 11:15 PM EST on December 6, 2009: Does anyone know what is vio2sf 0.22a nonpublic hack for?
by agu fungus at 7:20 AM EST on December 7, 2009: It adds interpolation from the latest DeSmume core, but it's only experimental.
by SmartOne at 1:41 PM EST on December 7, 2009: Does the DS even need interpolation? It just muddles the sound. GBA, on the other hand, is just a hairy mess to begin with.
by JFD62780 at 1:56 PM EST on December 7, 2009: Quoth SmartOne:

Does the DS even need interpolation?

...For the audiophiles. Besides, I dunno, ask the DeSmuME developers! :P

As for muddling the sound, at least the GB channels remain chippy! Shouldn't that cancel out the muddiness at least? ;)

edited 1:58 PM EST December 7, 2009
by SmartOne at 3:16 PM EST on December 7, 2009: More like audio-alterers. I guess it's fun to play with.
by Sir-Sabin at 11:14 AM EST on December 13, 2009: added 2 2sf sets

Dragon Ball Z Attack of the Saiyans Link

and

Metal Fight Beyblade Bakutan Cyber Pegasis Link

Enjoy
by agu fungus at 10:04 PM EST on December 15, 2009: Does the DS even need interpolation? It just muddles the sound. GBA, on the other hand, is just a hairy mess to begin with.

Try playing Kirby Super Star Ultra with interpolation on the latest DeSmume. Yes it does need interpolation to eliminate all that noise, as well as increase the sound quality. It has yet to be done on GBA music.
by JFD62780 at 6:17 PM EST on December 16, 2009: GBA? Fuhgeddaboutit! That stuff's done by custom software drivers hardcoded to GBA games. Though it WOULD be an awesome idea to create something that could somehow just rip the sample and sequence data so they'd not NEED to be bastardized by the GBA. Except for the original GameBoy channels; those can be a necessity for some games. :P

edited 6:19 PM EST December 16, 2009
by SmartOne at 2:34 AM EST on December 17, 2009: GBA audio can be interpolated with VBA-M and viogsf.

JFD62780, that's already how it's done. The stored samples suck to begin with so the GBA can handle them.

The "non-public hack" of vio2sf uses Linear interpolation. He could have chosen Cosine instead or added a plugin configuration option.

edited 2:58 AM EST December 17, 2009
by agu fungus at 11:19 AM EST on December 17, 2009: VBA-M and viogsf only filter the GSFs, so you don't get high quality anyway. I was thinking, how about converting GSF to 2SF? As far as I know, the NDS contains 8-bit channels that VGMTrans cannot play. Just an idea.
by SmartOne at 11:42 AM EST on December 17, 2009: You mean the VBA-M interpolation happens after the channels are mixed? DeSmuME interpolates each channel and then mixes them?

Yeah, that would be an improvement.
by JFD62780 at 6:39 PM EST on December 18, 2009: Agu: whoa... you just went deep into my very mind for that idea, didn't you? :P

For that, I'm thinking we'll have to wait until a 2SF plugin comes up with the ability to select a method of interpolation for the final mix. ;)
by Elven Spellmaker at 1:38 PM EST on December 29, 2009: (Might go better in this thread than the other one.)

Does anyone know if Pokémon Soul Silver and Heart Gold have been tagged?
by Knurek at 2:41 PM EST on January 1, 2010: Oh fuck yeah!
Custom SDATS made by hand.
1568 - Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann (JP)
Good thing I've liked the anime so much. And good thing it works.
by JFD62780 at 4:58 AM EST on January 9, 2010: This just in: Vio2SF 0.22b has just been released. This public beta includes a method for selecting the interpolated mixing method involved in playback. (FINALLY!)

Granted the six (Six? There should be three!) methods might not be matched in labeling, possibly cause of the miscommunication involved in a (possibly) Japanese plugin being based on US-based source code. Still, I feel the "Cosine Interpolation" option is the way to go for now. (I tried "Cosine"; it was really a fancier form of Linear interpolation, really. :P)

That said, Agu Fungus's idea now seems legit: How about converting GSF to 2SF? >;)

edited 5:05 AM EST January 9, 2010
by Lunar at 7:18 AM EST on January 9, 2010: i forgot to mention that 0.22a fixed the weird echo issues with the heartgold/soulsilver tracks, so if you never got that update this one will cater for ya.

and just in case you didn't see yet, Elven Spellmaker, i tagged the set a few days back :)

nice to have some interpolation settings. i kinda like it turned off actually; nice a bright. the heartgold/soulsilver OST release seems to sound this way too.

edited 9:26 AM EST January 9, 2010
by agu fungus at 12:18 PM EST on January 9, 2010: I tried out the new release, now what needs to be fixed is all the popping sounds when played on some tracks. Kirby Super Star Ultra, for example.

And personally, I don't like the cosine interpolation. It's like mixing both uninterpolated and linear in one. I hope there are more interpolation options in the future, like cubic.

edited 12:23 PM EST January 9, 2010
by JFD62780 at 4:38 PM EST on January 9, 2010: Agu: I TOLD you they were mislabeled. Use "Cosine Interpolation", not "Cosine". It's the method all the way at the bottom.

And I agree with the more methods request. This thing needs 4-point Gaussian (SNES), 8-Point Sinc, hell, even Band-Limited Mixing!

edited 6:19 PM EST January 9, 2010

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