I found two files when I unpacked it: .bin and .cue. But I can't open them.
Screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/eWo0K4Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/lAYoZpM.png
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It wouldn't surprise me if at least some of the instruments come from Roland, especially that sax.
And who else could I possibly be referring about?
Also, HOLY SHIT THOSE IMAGES delete pls
Highlight all the "r##" files and right click to open them up in your decompression software.
If you can't for some reason, download a Beta release of WinRAR or the most up to date release of 7-Zip.
If THAT still doesn't fix ya, then I don't know what to tell you.
edited 4:20 PM EDT August 28, 2016
Fixed. Why does images take up so much space on this forum anyway?
FYI: This is not your fault, but a virus called "MyPCBackup" was bundled with the Daemon Tools installer. I cancelled the installer before it could do anything and uninstalled the software, so my computer's safe now. But I won't use Daemon Tools anymore. So if someone reads this comment, I just want to say:
DON'T INSTALL DAEMON TOOLS LITE.
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I think it's good practice to have a virtual machine or another PC lying around for stuff like this when you want to install some freeware programs that come with useless installers. I personally try to avoid f****g installers whenever possible and instead try to extract the EXE(s) using 7zip. If nothing helps I switch to the VM for "risky" stuff and just copy the installed folder to the real system.
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Would I really have to get some older Windows version in a VM and install it there and leave Windows in an evaluation trial just to get the BINs' files extracted?
Other programs I've tried say "unknown format" when trying to open the BIN file or do nothing; What program has worked for these BIN/CUE files of the sample CDs? Sorry to ask this but I figured it's still somewhat relevant and I want to check out those samples myself.
edited 2:46 PM EDT August 31, 2016
Also, what if the BIN file is not a standard BIN?
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And yeah, since what you have is probably a GIGA disk, rather than a basic data disk, you won't see any actual files in a standard file browser or disk image tools.
You can also mount disk images to a virtual drive with a program of your choice, then use a sampling software that supports the disk format, and has the ability to read from drives (e.g. Awave Studio, plus all the aforementioned).
edited 3:34 PM EDT August 31, 2016
EDIT: Okay, Extreme Sample Converter doesn't know what the format of the BIN file is:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xqN463em.png[/img]
I probably should just make my own topic about this to avoid derailing this thread if I run into more problems. It looks different than a normal BIN created by WinISO, too; Compare them!
(full image)
LEFT: Normal BIN.
RIGHT: Sample CD BIN. You said this is the GIGA format; I know it isn't a hex editor but does that look like the format?
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I installed it and could mount the CUE file as a drive but as soon as Awave Studio tries to read it as an AKAI CD it "ejects" itself, the "device disconnected" sound plays, and it disappears from Windows Explorer.
Is there a way to prevent this? I think I'm so close to getting this to work.
Do your copies match?
Disc 1 SHA-1: BC2E30CAAD496BB61C38AD33ED98D94A6076B691
Disc 2 SHA-1: 5E1AD91D15C378C73A4CEE5A6BB69186EC405B39
bc2e30caad496bb61c38ad33ed98d94a6076b691 e-bsgk1.bin
5e1ad91d15c378c73a4cee5a6bb69186ec405b39 e-bsgk2.bin
I guess I should try it out with CDXtract.
By the way, am I derailing this thread too much?
EDIT: It works with CDXtract! Thanks, Nisto! Too bad it has limitations.
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It turns out CDXtract, although it has a lot of limits, it does allow extracting of the samples, which is all I need anyways, since I make songs in OpenMPT.
BTW, I've started working on two new soundfonts: Addams Family SNES and New Super Mario Bros. DS. The New Super Mario Bros. DS soundfont was uploaded by someone long ago, but all links to it on the entire internet are dead, so I decided to make one myself.
Also, new sample found!
Sample: Nylon-str Guitar
Game: New Super Mario Bros.
Song: Chijo (means "Ground/Slut" (!) in Japanese, it's the music in the E3 demo), Overworld
Library: Roland Sound Canvas
This sample was also used a lot in the Ace Attorney series!
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Nice, what other instruments have you found from NSMBDS?
Best Service Advanced Media Trax: Modern Composer - NYLON STRING / Roland Rhythm Section - GTR:Nylon String
Investigation ~ Contradiction at the Crime Scene contains Sound Canvas French horn, as an example.
Here's a beta version of the soundfont:
http://download1498.mediafire.com/vljubedzlrig/f6xb9pebw3e659k/NSMB+Soundfont+Demo.sf2
http://www.1up.com/media/01/8/3/4/lg/182.jpg
http://www.1up.com/media/01/8/3/4/lg/184.jpg
You can identify most of the rack synths: Roland JV-1080, JV-2080, SC-8850, VP-9000, E-Mu Proteus 2, Proteus World, Proteus Orchestral, Morpheus, Korg 01R/W Workstation, Novation Supernova 2, Akai S 3000...
I found the ocarina from Ocarina of Time in Proteus for example. The saz from Koume Kotake and Castle Town is also in Proteus World if I remember correctly.
Edit: Missed XV-5080, the top one in the second row
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This spreedsheet needs some updating it seems.
Library: Roland Sound Canvas
Game: Spider-Man 2 (PS2)
Song: Pizza!
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(Cavern of Remembrance)
Library -Liquid Grooves/Stylus RMX
Sample -Classic Bob (Breakdown 1)
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Also, the 5ths lead sound from XY was used in ORAS, more specifically in the Interviewers theme and Elite 4 encounter (but would those be different sounds?).
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"I've definitely found Ricco Harbor's brass from the Roland Fantom X, so that's something you might want to look into. I haven't checked any other libraries I know he has for samples from Sunshine, though.
I'd imagine you've heard them from Delfino Plaza? Or New Super Mario Bros. U. I'm pretty sure they use the Fantom X and G's nylon guitar patches, respectively."
by Can of Nothing at 3:55 PM EDT on May 29, 2015
"I have found out recently that Super Mario Sunshine and Mario Kart: Double Dash use Spectrasonics Supreme Beats for their world percussion (just noticed with the tablas used for Yoshi drums and the cuica sounds)"
by Benjamin at 8:40 PM EST on December 19, 2015
"Also, I heard "Duce Snare 2" from E-MU Proteus/1 in Super Mario Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion, but I don't recognize anything else from there in those two."
by Benjamin at 8:34 AM EDT on March 27, 2016
On the subject of sunshine I still want to know what that whistle sound (thanks G-Boy for correcting me) from the beginning from Ricco Harbor is:
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/super-mario-sunshine-game-rip/15-ricco-harbor.mp3
Since that sounds like the same one used here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7v-fNrzhms
I'm also curious about what Return to Dream Land uses, I know Benjamin said it uses Kontakt and he may or may not have heard one of the Zero-G libraries in the Grand Doomer battle theme. Aside from the percussion in Magolor's first battle theme which I also want to find, if the whistle in both songs is the same (and it definitely isn't live) the originating sample library must be really old.
edited 7:08 PM EDT September 4, 2016
BTW, I thought it would be a nice idea to share this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziwYI9Qks2c
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@PokeMusic: In ORAS especially the synth leads seem to be predominantly Omnisphere (presets from it are heard in tracks such as Route 111, Route 113, the surfing music, and Heavy Rain). One of the contest themes also used a Nexus preset. NI Massive was also used in the heavy rain music for bass and I think some other songs use the plugin too (such as the champion music, that bass is not Trilian, never found the exact preset though in Massive if there is one). For the reporter encounter and elite four encounter I don't think they're the same preset, since the elite four one sounds a lot raspier, but I think they're both HALion since the reporters lead resembles the one from XY Boutique and that was HALion. But there really isn't that much usage of HALion synths in ORAS outside of the trainer battle (the one panned left, not right).
Speaking of the synths in the ORAS trainer battle Alex and I believed for a long while that the right ear synth you hear when the loop begins (this synth is in pretty much all the battle themes in the game except for Elite Four battle and Deoxys battle, I think) is Mega Dance from Native Instruments Pro-53. But after listening carefully to the songs with that synth I'm starting to doubt it, especially after playing them at half speed; it doesn't glide like the pro-53 one and has a more abrupt sustain. Of course, Pro-53 isn't the only Prophet V emulator; there's the one by Arturia but I don't have it so I can't check it, also there's no guarantee they would have similar presets. I also don't think the synth is HALion since the closest thing to it in the plugin doesn't sound quite like it, nor do I think it's Omnisphere because that really doesn't sound like something I'd hear in it.
Any ideas?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1j_vYSCErQ&list=PLUfDrr-YOwT7_xuWgsc1qlSenDj_pE_29&index=4
The Square Lead's from the Roland Sound Canvas. Maybe the bass is from there too.
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https://www.mediafire.com/?ulota6eb4ujhk4c
Sample Rate may be off.
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With regards to Spectrum 3, it's a base waveform on the card, not a complete patch. So if the demos you're listening to just use the preset patches, you might not hear it.
Anybody knows what Tenpei Sato uses? I'm especially interested in stuff from Witch and the Hundred Knight.
Here are some songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-v1-GOe188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdpkiUY8WmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4t5HSYqnSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPO6GiuXyv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXCs2Wuipk
Anybody have any ideas?
Now that you mention it... I do hear some sounds from it, maybe even more upon closer inspection.
Thanks.
especially putt-putt and pep's dog on a stick. that game had good music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7vY1K6y9V8
also curious what the percussion loop used in the topiary creatures' song from putt-putt saves zoo is, if anybody knows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_Lzz_ZDTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMwGb16DAY
But they were probably recorded specifically for the game...
Perfect Dark Intro Choir swell: Best Service Advanced Media Trax - Classic Composer - UNI-CLU.C3
Twilight Princess Cello's: Best Service Advanced Media Trax - Classic Composer - STRINGS XCG
I've heard this in a game as well, but not sure what game.
https://youtu.be/CNDDA--_RU0?t=1535
No, I wondered if I could do the same thing as AceK and upload a list of samples used in video game music.
Well I mean I don't see why not!
If you've got enough samples to fill a list, then it ought to be worthwhile.
Most games prefer to make their own SFX samples, but there's instances where they use publicly purchasable libraries.
That user was me! :D
@G-boy how was your luck with the Kurzweil Gigapack? I tried this exactly one year ago and without any luck didnt know how to open it correctly.
Forum, where can I find legitimate sample cds? I'll need hardware as well, I know, but I heard Omnisphere didnt have a lot of the source samples as the cd-roms.
I'll list more examples, but here's one:
Rayman Raving Rabbids- Rabbid Graveyard loop 4
Soul Eater OST-krieg
There is another example on Infinite Stratos 2 OST, but unfortunately can't find a video for it.
Speaking of Nanase's music, she uses Massive. I found one preset,"Action to Reaktion" and it's exactly like in one of her tracks. Will upload these examples soon.
Thanks, punk. ;)
That bass was used in Pokémon X and Y.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE4nrBRGHCA
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y2G2HapHa2hdCqHffjRecisCM-9wpHMnSgJQXLSb62o/edit?usp=sharing
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@G-Boy I added a few of my findings.
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The drum loop?
Stylus RMX ~ 125-Evil Echo
I abandoned it, downloadable sample CDs are too complicated for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jocrNBs09Ao&index=1&list=PL345A9A6D4B9800EC
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x62ayn8l0wo0wmw/Weird+Wario+Words.sf2
I don't even know where to begin...
Who, what, why? Maybe I'm overreacting, but where the heck did these samples come from?
I found them in the Wario Land 4 soundfont I ripped from the game. Some of them are unused, and some of them was used in the title screen music. They're very fuzzy, but not as fuzzy as in the game. The question is: why wasn't the singer credited and how did these end up in a Wario game?
Does anyone know where these samples came from?
I think the sample rate is off because Nintendo had to compress the samples in order to save space on the GBA. GBA voice samples have always been low-quality anyway. At least they sound better than they would if they were recorded from the actual console.
@G-Boy meh, best way is to find actual copies. Too bad I wasn't collecting in the 90s.
Speaking of Evil Echo the newly released Streetpass Mii Plaza games (well one of them at least) use it, specifically the songs "Day Trading Begins!" and "Moment of Truth" in Market Crashers. Didn't think those games would be the type to use Stylus RMX. Neat.
@G-Boy: CDXtract's demo can extract any sample from the Gigapack CDs. (I've actually used some of them in my own music now, unrelated to the topic!)
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That was one of the first programs I tried to use, but it didn't work either.
https://clyp.it/lqsiybmz
Not sure of the other samples yet, but these are definitely some of them.
edit: of note, you currently can purchase Vocal XTC 50% off at zero-g's website. Just saying..
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Good find! I wonder where the other samples came from... It sounds like the other samples have the same singer as the ones you found.
Edit:
And also the people working on the Pokemon Instrument sources.
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@PokeMusic Yamaha PSR-E443? Does any game use instruments from that? It's silly to ask this, but it's personal; I have a Yamaha PSR-E413 and if a game uses instruments from something that could have the same instruments, I may for once own something a composer's used similar...and have instruments they've used (other than the Gigapack).
Also, how was my first attempt at a comparison in that post I made about F-Zero GX?
Yes. It has 457 XGLite presets. As well as digital filter controls. And it has some sounds different than a PSR e413 (the 443 has 755 sounds).
Song: Miles Edgeworth ~ Great Revival
Game: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice For All
Library: Casio CTK-573
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While I'm posting, it sure sounds to my ear like the remix of Felicia's Night Warriors theme on the Dance Revolution Vol. 1 album uses the same bass as the original ingame song. If we can identify gear used in that album, it may in turn act a s a lead toward samples sources in the game.
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Sound Library: Big Fish Audio Mariachi
Game: Guacamelee, Rayman Fiesta Run
Songs: All
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Synthesizer: Roland SC-88(Pro?)
Game: Pen Pen TriIceLon
Library: Roland SC-88
Song: Inside the Pyramid
Game: Wario Land 4
@Smoggle, this is the "whining bass synth" you were looking for!
I agree... it's quiet, too quiet.
I told people on YouTube Roland Sound Canvas' "crappy" (at the time, only hearing the bad-sounding gm.dls ones) samples were used in that game, but they said it was released "after the game"...
Also, I have a thread here about Graffiti Kingdom, wanting its samples as it's sequenced, but no one's checking it out; I'm curious where the instruments came from, if anyone knows.
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Next time please leave some YouTube links for the sake of easy clicking.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uja36WBnkKI
In this song, at the beginning, the hit sound used sounds sort of similar to the Fantom X's "In da Cave" patch, here:
http://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Fantom%20XR/Audio/Patch/PR-C/113%20In%20da%20Cave.mp3
Are they the same patch? If not, anyone know what else it might be? Also, I know that same sound is on the Hip Hop expansion board for the JV-2080, but does it originate from anywhere else?
Was it released after the game? Hmm... the Roland SC-55 was released in 1991, and Super Mario World was released in 1990. Maybe Roland gave Koji Kondo permission to use the Sound Canvas before it was released to the public. I don't know, but one thing's for sure: it's the same sample.
I'm not fully familiar with the regular instruments in that song, but the percussion in that song come from a SC-88. It does seem like that sound you linked is in that song. Scanned a few other songs from that game and I did hear quite a bit of SC-88 once again. Sato loves his sound modules so its safe to say he probably used a mix of something for that song. I know Disgaea is almost entirely (if not already) SC-88 instrumentation.