HCS Forum - The VGM/Others Instrument Source Thread

by Xane123 at 8:39 PM EDT on October 8, 2016: @punk7890-2: Ah, interesting! A VST, the Sound Canvas-88 again, and an orchestra-sample-thing...interesting.

If the samples were ripped from the game or that CDVDMAP file, it'd be cool, but one day I should consider getting the stuff the composers use! [s]My songs "The Nightlife" and "You're Under Arrest!" demonstrate how I handle Gigapack samples, anyways.[/s]

Still, thanks; I should've linked to some of the songs on YouTube but it's frustrating looking at my HCS64 thread about the game that only has my posts in it, so I just rushed the question here; It's dumb Graffiti Kingdom chose the SMD/SWD format.

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by Ghignarda at 12:48 AM EDT on October 9, 2016: @punk7890-2: Thank you for confirming it's likely to be an SC-88 and other modules.

Is it possible the beginning sound is being modulated, and based off the In da Cave sample? They sound fairly similar.
Sound Canvas Again by G-Boy at 1:43 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Samples: Slow Violin, Slow Strings
Sound Library: Roland SC-55
Song: A Party at Peach's Castle
Game: Paper Mario

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Sound Canvas Again Again by G-Boy at 2:32 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Sample: E. Piano 2
Sound Library: Roland SC-88
Song: Princess in Distress
Game: Paper Mario
Sound Canvas Again Again Again by G-Boy at 2:39 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Sample: Clarinet
Sound Library: Roland SC-88
Song: Koopa Village
Game: Paper Mario
Sound Canvas Again Again Again Again by G-Boy at 2:44 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Sample: Synth Brass 1
Sound Library: Roland SC-55
Song: Koopa Village
Game: Paper Mario

Wow... I didn't know the Roland Sound Canvas was used this much in Paper Mario.
Sound Canvas Again Again Again Again Again by G-Boy at 2:47 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Sample: Whistle
Sound Libary: Roland SC-55
Song: General Guy's March
Game: Paper Mario

Now I finally know where I recognized that whistle sample from.

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Sound Canvas Again Again Again Again Again Again by G-Boy at 3:00 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: Sample: Sitar
Sound Library: Roland SC-88Pro
Song: Angry Bowser
Game: Paper Mario
by punk7890-2 at 8:01 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: The entirety of Paper Mario is SC-88 IIRC. I found that out while working on the audio format for the game.

Also, it would be much more appropriate if you edit your post rather then making a ton of essentially the same post.

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by felineki at 10:31 PM EDT on October 9, 2016: >However, that sample may have its origin in a previous Roland synth.

This is very true. Lots of the ubiquitous Roland samples you hear in the Sound Canvas series and other modules date back to the S-50 sampler which came out back in the 80s.
by G-Boy at 5:45 AM EDT on October 10, 2016: @punk7890-2
Okay, I can't delete my posts, but I'll remember that next time.

Edit: FYI, there won't be a next time, since the trial period of the Roland Sound Canvas VA I used to find the samples has expired.

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That Fantasia...again! by Xane123 at 1:22 PM EDT on October 10, 2016: Sample(s): Fantasia
Sound Library: Roland SC-88
Song: Title (link)
Game: Heartcatch Pretty Cure! Oshare Collection

The good news about the...beautiful SC-88 Fantasia samples in this game is that unlike Hamsterz Life and Shugo Chara, Bandai included more than one sample of the Fantasia and I can hear it souns more like the lower-end Fantasia that comes with Windows at lower octaves. Of course, this was added to my soundfont.

@G-Boy: I thought the trial only lasted 10 minutes...how have you used it this long? I this an older Roland thing from before the VST?

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Roland Sound Canvas VA by G-Boy at 2:20 PM EDT on October 10, 2016: @Xane123
The trial only lasts 10 minutes, but if you close the trial and open it again, the clock resets, which gives you another 10 minutes. You can repeat this process in 14 days. I think you can uninstall it and install it again to continue using it for 14 days, but I haven't tried that.
by Xane123 at 5:17 PM EDT on October 10, 2016: @G-Boy: I assume you mean this one; Amazing that one can be tricked! 10 minutes seems pretty short to check out all of those Sound Canvas samples.
Gunvolt samples by Kharaxel at 1:33 PM EDT on October 11, 2016: Hi. Since I got a quick response when I asked about Tenpei Sato, I'm hoping someone manages to figure this out.

I'm trying to identify what sounds are used in Gunvolt soundtracks. They are pretty much made by the same teams of musicians, with Ippo Yamada leading it.

Here are crapload of different songs:

Gunvolt 1/2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJoTTfMwck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOodpab_tPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCaWTlpTX5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Db8H_Ikp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d_RJxC-m3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUzJNiP2nY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BAoeYfPuvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3jwSVDpp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwK8iUS3VU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjEehm0EuDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2YirWrYq-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieqOrd5rRyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSeSjBgppqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiFBczog_lA

I went through Synthmania's many demos but still can't figure it out. I doubt they all come from one source, but still.
Thanks for any help.
Roland Sound Canvas VA by G-Boy at 2:35 PM EDT on October 13, 2016: FYI, I just uninstalled and installed the Sound Canvas VA again, but it still reognizes that my trial period has expired.
by marcusss at 9:40 PM EDT on October 13, 2016: Try deleting all references to it in the registry as well :-)
Woof! by G-Boy at 2:26 PM EDT on October 15, 2016: Sample: Dog
Library: XGLite
Game: Wario Land 4
The Sound Canvas VA by Xane123 at 9:32 PM EDT on October 15, 2016: Now I'm installing the Sound Canvas VA myself; I plan to check the registry so I'll know what tells it about the trial's status.
by dj4uk6cjm at 12:44 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: Speaking of the Sound Canvas VST, does anyone know how in the world do you set the percussion instruments to midi tracks? It only uses channel 10 for midi drums by default which sucks because what if I have a midi that has the percussion notes on another channel other than 10? How can I set the percussion instruments to play on other midi tracks that have them? This things been bugging me for months ever since I bought it lol appreciate the help wherever it comes from. :P
by Ghignarda at 1:23 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: @dj4uk6cjm:

I think it depends on the DAW you're using. At least in Logic, you are able to change the midi channels of different tracks through the inspector.
by dj4uk6cjm at 1:35 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: Ah I see, well I use Mixcraft and I think it's dependent on the VST end to change the channels or either it's not outputting them right for me because I did once before try to just move and change a percussion track from 1 channel to 10 and the VST still didn't play it with percussion instruments by default so I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Solution by G-Boy at 4:38 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: @dj4uk6cjm
Maybe this guide will help you:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/SONAR-and-Roland-Sound-Canvas-VA-m3400921.aspx

It works for me, anyway (and I use FL Studio).
Sound Canvas VA by G-Boy at 4:44 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: @Xane123
FYI, I found three files in the Sound Canvas VA's folder in the registry editor: "(Standard)", "Fld" and "FldData" (without the quotation marks).
That Nylon Guitar Again by G-Boy at 6:43 AM EDT on October 16, 2016: Instrument: Nylon Guitar
Library: Roland SC-55
Song: Wildflower Fields
Game: Wario Land 4
Roland Sound Canvas VA's strange registry keys by Xane123 at 3:35 PM EDT on October 16, 2016: @G-Boy Fld and Fldata look the same, a long hexadecimal number (a hash or something?)

I'm not sure what deleting it'd do or if someone'd find out what it did then set the remaining trial time to something like many years into the future.

For example, my registry (Computer\HKEY_USERS\S-1-lots of numbers)\SOFTWARE\Roland\Activator\SC-VA\FldData is "8a30076a9fe1050ef2d43bbfb121799089f7d7cbe1e1bba570b3bfe3bf9961d5"; That's definitely a hash of some kind. It might be SHA256.

Also, wow, Wario Land 4 and Sound Canvas...

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by punk7890-2 at 6:00 PM EDT on October 16, 2016: @dj4uk6cjm In the Sound Canvas main window, you will see the buttons, PART, FX, and OPTION. Click on option than go to SYSTEM. There you can change the rhythm part (drums).
Sound Canvas VA VS OpenMPT by Xane123 at 6:23 PM EDT on October 16, 2016: Speaking of the Sound Canvas VA, I know it's not a DAW but it doesn't work with OpenMPT though "Trial mode" appears twice.

I bet every DAW is paid or something so I can't try the VA unless I do...questionable things...
by dj4uk6cjm at 6:52 PM EDT on October 16, 2016: Thanks punk, your suggestion worked. I didn't know the setting was in the option menu.
by pizzapizza at 2:33 AM EDT on October 17, 2016: where this snare drum comes from?

im want to know where the snare drum comes from(the link i leaved before is a sonic advance 3 music track, the snare sound is a little bit quiet)

its used in the storm eagle stage in megaman x,
and a similar sound can be heared in fulgore's theme (original 1994 killer instinct (arcade version)) there is an another example (check at 00.20)

its also used in sonic battlethere is an another example

(by the way, the crash cymbal sound reminds me of a crash cymbal from an e-mu proteus drum library(maybe e-mu proteus series)which i have a sample of it, i dont know exactly where it originates from, i recorded that sound with the proteus vx free vst and lmms(i searched here, but i didint found it,i think))

i love that snare drum a i would love to use that sound in my "compositions",
but i dont know where it originates from, so please help me identify that snare drum.

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R.I.P. Headphones by G-Boy at 1:09 PM EDT on October 17, 2016: @pizzapizza
I downloaded the Sonic Advance 3 ROM and tried to find the song with the snare that you linked, but it's very hard to find, and I gave up because the music from that game hurted my ears so much (I use headphones). Maybe I'll continue searching for it in the future. I'm not sure if that snare is sampled, it could be a PSG sound (8-bit).

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by pizzapizza at 3:35 PM EDT on October 17, 2016: i am sorry for your ears(and your heardphones), and its a lot easier if you downlad a soundfont (here is a place you can found one, look at the description),this one is organised and a lot easier to find instruments, if you use this,the snare sound im talking about should be included in the drumkit 2.

i dont think is a psg generated sound, its also used in other games(even in higher quality),and would be complicated to program a complex sound like this, as i mentioned before,look up for my previous post, should be an example of other games that uses that sound(megaman x and killer instinct)

also, i listened some songs that uses that sound(which i dont remember the names)

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Sonic Advance 3 Drums by Xane123 at 3:51 PM EDT on October 17, 2016: Here's the "preset" used by the Sonic Advance 3 boss music; The snare drums are on the middle octaves and the drum is a sample.

Also, back on page 32, Can of Nothing linked to one of my old videos about Roland's--as I'd say back then, "crappy General MIDI samples", the SM64 Music Box, which really does sound like the Sound Canvas music box, the same one that seemingly appeared in Sonic Adventure's extra life sound.

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by punk7890-2 at 5:05 PM EDT on October 17, 2016: I tried that sf2 that Xane linked and only managed to find this snare. It is from a Roland JV-1080, though I got this from one of my Roland Sxx CD's. I have a ton of other Roland snares but its hard to tell because of the quality of those samples. It sort of sounds like its from some spliced up sample that you would get in a loop sample pack or something similar.
by peronmls at 10:39 PM EDT on October 17, 2016: Has the redead scream from OOT been found?
by pizzapizza at 1:16 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: ok, its getting hard..(here is an example in higher quality,by the way)

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by punk7890-2 at 1:46 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: That soundtrack used a lot of Roland BOSS DR660. You might want to check out this page for a sample pack. http://awolfe.home.xs4all.nl/studio660.htm

While I didn't hear that exact snare, there are a lot like it in that pack I linked.
by pizzapizza at 8:03 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: punk7890-2, thanks.

ill'check that out.

and i want to say 3 things;

1 i linked 2 times some other music tracks as example of that sound,look in my first post.
example 2 is megaman x storm eagle, the 3rd example is fugore s' theme in the original killer instinct.

2 i have a vst made by e-mu that includes some sounds that are begin used in some games, like the crash cymbal in sonic advance 3, its freeware.
if you want to qive it a shot, its here

3 the tread i mentioned in my first post refers to megaman x and ff7, sorry, i had to mention it

also, i have a 2,7gb(i think)sample pack of a lot of drum machines, i am too lazy to search into every file folder of this collection.
i had to donate 4$ (you can donate less that 4$) total to have every sound plus some extra.
here is the site

if you donate with paypal, your account attached with your donation recives a mail that gives you a pass for a secret zone of the site.

i searched a little bit, but i would love to have a list of drum machines that shows the ones that came out in the 90s, so it would be easier to search.

EDIT:there is one rigth here!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! by G-Boy at 8:49 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: @peronmis
I hope someone finds the source of that scream... I couldn't find a voice actor that was credited for it, so it must be from a sample library.

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by pizzapizza at 9:46 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: an higher quality version of it migth make things easier

sounds identical

its from the fulgore s' theme, i just want to make you listen this sample, thats why i kinked it 3 times.

also, the oot scream is this?

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by peronmls at 11:20 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: @G-Boy
I think it is because it plays at 1:11 in this video. It's slowed down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp6pbegiG1Y
by pizzapizza at 11:33 AM EDT on October 18, 2016: i searched a little bit,noting again.
that snare drum its hard to find...

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! by G-Boy at 2:53 AM EDT on October 19, 2016: @peronmls
Was the ReDead scream used in Tim and Eric before The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time?
*mindblown*

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by pizzapizza at 1:16 AM EDT on October 20, 2016: You can continue your research for that scream sample,ill wait here

So, i found a post that lists some of the synthesizers he used to compose music, i migth search these in my sample collection.
Roland GM Sound Set by G-Boy at 8:45 AM EDT on October 20, 2016: I heard from the user RB that "Nintendo licensed a Roland GM sound set that was offered to SNES developers, so many early games have SC55 sounds, notably Castlevania IV.". Maybe this will help people who search for the samples used in SNES games.
Peck Your Beak by G-Boy at 8:33 AM EDT on October 21, 2016: Sample: Acordion
Keyboard: Yamaha PSR-E333 (XGlite mode)
Song: Blue Birds
Game: Rhythm Heaven
by G-Boy at 10:44 AM EDT on October 21, 2016: Sound Library: Roland SC-55
Song: Title Theme
Game: Animaniacs (SNES)
finally doing something non-useless by pizzapizza at 1:16 PM EDT on October 21, 2016: my bad, i am sorry for not posting this before, this crash cymbal sounds similar to the one used in sonic battle ost, i recorded it with the emu proteus vx vst and proteus x composer bank 2.01

here is some sonic battle ost(with the crash sample,of course)

mentioned at my first post, but posting it later.

im a genius.

not really.

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Kingdom Hearts by peronmls at 9:54 PM EDT on October 21, 2016: Kingdom Hearts II - Final Mix

Track: Deep Anxiety
Library: Liquid Grooves
Sample: Lay it Down (Mix 2)

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Library: Stormdrum
Sample: Dark Tower

It's a combination of the 2.
================================================

Track: Cavern of Remembrance
Library: Liquid Grooves
Sample: Classic Bob (Breakdown 1+2)

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Waiting for Godot by G-Boy at 6:55 AM EDT on October 23, 2016: I still wonder where the saxophone from Godot's theme comes from...

Sample

Is it the saxophone from this demo?

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by Enclave123 at 12:28 PM EDT on October 23, 2016: I was ripping some soundfonts on the resident evil dual stock OST, it seen like it uses the same string stacco sample from goldeneye and blast corps.

I might do rips for the original OST next

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by punk7890-2 at 5:22 PM EDT on October 23, 2016: @G-Boy Yeah its just a SC-88 Sax sampled from a high layer.
High Layer by G-Boy at 8:11 AM EDT on October 24, 2016: @punk7890-2
What's a high layer? Maybe this is a stupid question.
by henke37 at 12:35 PM EDT on October 24, 2016: Layers are samples that are played on top of each other. For example, one for the main sound and another for some mechanical noise. Or maybe just additional harmonies at high velocities.
by G-Boy at 1:25 PM EDT on October 24, 2016: @henke37
Yes, I know what a "layer" means, but I don't know what a "high layer" means.
by punk7890-2 at 4:43 PM EDT on October 24, 2016: What I meant is its a sample at a higher octave. Maybe somewhere around G6. Certain samples are spread across certain ranges and this is from a higher range.
by icecream at 9:51 AM EDT on October 27, 2016: Because I think it's relevant to this thread: my friend asked Gō Ichinose about his hardware use in HeartGold and SoulSilver and he has directly confirmed that he used an SD-90 for the games.
https://twitter.com/GoIchinose/status/791246812975816704
This basically also confirms that this is precisely what he used for the FRLG drums.

Now my question is about the "other hardware" he says he used and to what extent he used this other hardware as well as the SD-90. Stuff like the trumpet, synth bass, and orchestral cymbal are definitely from VSTi's that we have found, though not every instrument was from a VSTi. And now it's completely up in the air what hardware they used (outside of the SC-88, most apparent in the choirs), though it's slightly implied to not be Fantom as he also asked about that and didn't get direct confirmation of Fantom use in the game. There's also the question if he has used the SD-90 or this "other hardware" beyond HeartGold and SoulSilver (mainly in Black 2 and White 2 as he led music during those games as well and we don't know a lot of the samples' origins though VST's again definitely were used, such as Stylus and Addictive Drums), or even before in Diamond and Pearl, because there are a lot of samples in those games thought to be SC-88 or Hyper Canvas that we recently found are clearly not (most notably the piano, which is actually EWQL Colossus/Goliath).

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by G-Boy at 1:13 PM EDT on October 27, 2016: Does anyone know where the instruments used in the Guardia Millenial Fair theme from Chrono Trigger comes from?

Instruments
by peronmls at 9:28 AM EDT on October 28, 2016: I miss CD Sample discovery's on here.
by G-Boy at 5:17 AM EDT on October 29, 2016: @peronmls
And I miss the Roland Sound Canvas VA trial. I can't compare samples anymore...

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by Xane123 at 3:50 PM EDT on October 29, 2016: @G-Boy: Deleting all related registry keys/values didn't trick it?
by punk7890-2 at 5:27 PM EDT on October 29, 2016: @peronmls Yeah me as well. Doesn't seem like many people collect them / post their findings anymore. I've slowed down considerably myself, however.
by peronmls at 6:29 PM EDT on October 30, 2016: @punk7890-2
Yeah. I mean It's not hard to find sampling CDs if you know what I mean. Synthesizers on the other hand are not easy to obtain and only a select few people can contribute to that stuff. Not even sure if it's worth having another thread or not.
by palo_alto at 4:55 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: I *think* the ocarina sound in OOT is from E-mu ... here's my attempt at "Epona's Song" using Creative Lab's 8MBGSFX E-mu rev b soundfont ... it's very close, though the sound in-game is more present in the higher frequencies ... this suggests either that samples were pre-equalized so as to compensate for the lower sample-rate and the frequency response of tv speakers upon playback, or (most likely) that the Creative soundfont is of a lower sample-rate and high frequency content is therefore attenuated ... anyway have a listen and see what you think

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DCga763bpF
Ocarina of Time by G-Boy at 6:03 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palto_alto
The original version sounds different, IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeyqY8UPpus

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by palo_alto at 8:17 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: no, it's definitely E-mu. patch 045 Ocarina Solo from Proteus/3 WORLD sound module to be exact. the same sample must've found its way into the Creative Labs soundfont (E-mu Systems was acquired by Creative in 1993)

here's "Sun's Song" this time with reverb

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qi3Al1Mqkx

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM-GSC1oqnE
Ocarina of Time by G-Boy at 8:43 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palo_alto
That sounds much better! I'm sure it's the same sample.

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by palo_alto at 9:22 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: yes I think it is definitely the one ... am so happy to have found it for my own music. though I don't mean to suggest that Kondo used a soundfont of course; he obviously would've got the sound from a Proteus 3.

I wonder if anybody knows the origin of this sound from the Resident Evil/Biohazard soundtrack ... first heard at 0:02 ... it almost sounds like a processed orchestra hit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEpF2Vav4u4&
by peronmls at 11:08 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palo alto
It's a orch Hit that's playing low notes. that's all.
by palo_alto at 11:14 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: @peronmls
you seem angry. did I say something to irritate you?
by palo_alto at 11:22 AM EDT on October 31, 2016: I must apologise for annoying you, I honestly didnt mean to. I should leave this thread now before I cause more harm, thanks for everybodys help
HCS Drama? by G-Boy at 12:45 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palo_alto No, don't leave the thread! Why would you cause more harm? What happened while I was gone?

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by peronmls at 1:02 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: omg what!? no!! DX

I wasn't being mean. I really wasn't. Sorry if it came off wrong. =(

Before I was just saying I miss loop sample discovery from sample CDs. Its been on the synthesizer topic for awhile now not because of you.

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Text Wall by G-Boy at 1:22 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: @peronmls
The reason why I haven't posted sample CD discoveries is because I still don't know how to use sample CDs... I really tried to make the Kurzweil Gigapack work, but I didn't find any simple explanations of it on the internet, so I gave up. The reason why I posted Roland Sound Canvas discoveries is because I had the trial version, but the trial has come to a close now, so I can't use it anymore. And I don't want to be illegal and delete the registry keys, so the only thing I can do right now is to find samples from my own physical Yamaha keyboards until Christmas.

Sorry for the wall of text! :)

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Accordion by G-Boy at 1:23 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: Has anyone found the accordion from Ocarina of Time yet? Maybe it comes from a sample CD...
by peronmls at 1:40 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: Most games use orchestral presets from keyboards. More than likely the accordion comes from a synth.
The source is what we want first. The port to sample cd would be the extra nice thing to have.
Moo Moo Fiddle by G-Boy at 1:56 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: Does anyone know where the violin from Moo Moo Farm comes from? I recognized it from something while I was watching a video, but I don't know what. Someobody said that the Mario Kart 64 soundtrack was made with an SC-88.

Moo Moo Farm/Yoshi's Valley - Mario Kart 64

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by Enclave123 at 2:07 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palo_alto

I believe the resident evil sound is actually from a roland jv1080 or 2080, i think it part of the GM set from it.

Mostly that and the dualshock (Which is poorly composed) use presets from those synthesizers, i do think there is similar sounds from the Sound Canvas VA.

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by Nisto at 2:36 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: You basically have to try all of these programs if the first one you try doesn't work for a sample CD:
- CDXtract
- Extreme Sample Converter (doesn't support Kurzweil)
- Awave Studio
- Chicken Systems Translator
- Kontakt

And also, if one of them ever refuses to read a disk image, try mounting it first. To this day I haven't found a single CD that at least one of them couldn't open somehow.

It's a lot, yeah, but it just may be worth it in the end.
by punk7890-2 at 5:24 PM EDT on October 31, 2016: @palo_alto Nice find on he OoT ocarina! But @peronmls scared the poor guy away! (Just joking lol).

@G-Boy Mario Kart 64's instruments are 98% SC-88. That instrument is the Fiddle, not the violin. I got mixed up before myself. Here is a remastered version of the song I did awhile ago. I should get around to finishing all the songs in that game.
by Jasper at 3:52 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: I'm quite sure the redead scream is a stock sound effect. You can also find it here:

https://youtu.be/-NMFFFqG1Kk?t=15

I'm sure if you spent some time on https://soundeffects.sounddogs.com/ you could find it on there somewhere.
Remastering a Fiddle by G-Boy at 4:55 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: @punk7890-2
One of my own keyboards (the Casio CTK-573) has many samples from the Roland SC-88, so maybe that's where I recognized the Fiddle sample from (I can't tell the difference between a violin and a fiddle).

BTW, I found and downloaded your remastered version of the Kart Select theme yesterday, how many songs from Mario Kart 64 did you remaster? And how did you remaster them (the reason why I'm asking this is because I want to remaster the Bowser's Inside Story soundtrack)?

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by G-Boy at 5:02 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: @Jasper
I think it was used in Smosh too.
by G-Boy at 5:13 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: Does anyone know where the instruments used in the Overworld (SMB) theme from Super Mario All-Stars comes from? I already know the Steel Drum comes from a Roland sound library.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8X6S7ZGTc

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by peronmls at 9:10 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: @jasper
I thought it could of been in one of the Hollywood edge premiere edition CD. I think there is about 7? That or something from sound ideas.
Scream by G-Boy at 11:03 AM EDT on November 1, 2016: @peronmls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBn-MS7cCc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx_o7l0ZIaA

It could be one of these sounds, but the videos are not available for me.

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by peronmls at 11:34 AM EDT on November 2, 2016: neither im afraid. I also remember looking though the WAV version of Premier 1-7. I could have looked over it.
by Jasper at 10:06 PM EDT on November 2, 2016: Since it was on the Brak album, my vote would be to try to find a copy of the Turner Entertainment collections. I know they had distribution in Japan, and Cartoon Network was on such low-budget at the time they probably reused in-house sounds.

https://www.sound-ideas.com/Product/413/turner-entertainment-co.-sound-effects-library/
https://www.sound-ideas.com/Product/410/Hanna-Barbera-Lost-Treasures-Sound-Effects-Library
https://www.sound-ideas.com/Product/409/Hanna-Barbera-Sound-Effects-Library
Hanna Barbera ReDeads by G-Boy at 6:42 AM EDT on November 3, 2016: @Jasper
OK, but I don't think the ReDead scream comes from the Flintstones...
Steel Drums by G-Boy at 1:24 PM EDT on November 3, 2016: Where does the Steel Drums from the Nook's Cranny theme come from?

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Saxophone Cringe by G-Boy at 7:49 AM EDT on November 4, 2016: Does anyone know where the saxophone sample from Wii Music comes from?

E3 Demonstration
by PokeMusic at 2:07 PM EDT on November 4, 2016: @G-Boy the saxophone could be from Logic Pro, Nintendo uses that DAW a lot for the music, it could also be a Sound Canvas or Fantom/Triton/Motif/some other ROMpler. Toru Minegishi, Kenta Nagata and Mahito Yokota composed for Wii Music so if you look them up in the forum, you could find out what they have and might have used,

Steel drums sound a lot like my CTK-6200 Casio (Steel Drums 1 or Steel Drums GM set) with a bit of vibrato added. Could also be a Sound Canvas (my Casio has the same steel drums from Super Mario World). It sounds like a modulation effect was applied using a modulation wheel. The composers are Kenta Nagata, Toru Minegishi, Shinobu Tanaka, and Kazumi Totaka, so you can find out what gear they have.

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Casio CTK by G-Boy at 6:56 AM EDT on November 5, 2016: @PokeMusic
Sorry, this is off-topic, but my Casio CTK-573 has many instruments that was used in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story. Yoko Shimomura used a Roland SC-88 for that game, so I think my Casio's samples are from the Roland Sound Canvas. But the Steel Drums are actually one of the few instruments on my keyboard that doesn't come from a Roland Sound Canvas...

Here's a demo of a different Casio keyboard with the same instruments as mine.

BTW, my keyboard also has the French Horn sample that was used in "Miles Edgeworth ~ Great Revival" and the Brass sample that was used in "Victor Kudo ~ A Painful Declaration, and a War Song". Both samples were used in the demo.

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by icecream at 5:27 PM EDT on November 5, 2016: I hear 97 Wax Wash Hihats Spring from Stylus RMX in Mario Maker's NSMBU Airship Edit theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYELLLFLOdc
But it seems to only play a single slice of it (or one slice at a time)
by Master_E at 11:38 PM EDT on November 5, 2016: All this talk of Phoenix Wright makes me want to inquire about the ubiquitous synth stabs that are at the beginning of the Pursuit themes for the first 3 games.

At first glance, it sounds like the stab in the 3rd game (Trials and Tribulations) sounds duller than the one used in 1 and 2. But fundamentally the sound is the same.

But perhaps a bigger question is why they didn't continue using such an iconic instrument after they were afforded more space with Apollo Justice and onward?

Anyway, it'd be nice to hear the sample without all the compression.
by G-Boy at 10:02 AM EST on November 6, 2016: @Master_E

I ripped a soundfont of that sample:

http://download948.mediafire.com/tn4ccm4c23qg/ta7b9mvafhl4flu/SynthStabFont.sf2

I thought it could help, even if it's still compressed.

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I am sorry if i ask again, but i am obsessed with this snare drum by pizzapizza at 11:57 AM EST on November 8, 2016: I am sorry if i am interrupting you while you are already doing something

my intention I am sorry if i annoyed you, but i cant resist without knowing where this snare drum comes from

because getting real drum machine can get too expensive,i have a 2.2gb
collection of almost every drum machine of the 70'-80'-90'-2000 downloadable on kb6.de (donationware). i didnt made it, and i am not sponsoring it.)

please help me

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by peronmls at 12:43 AM EST on November 10, 2016: @pizzapizza
Doesn't sound familiar to me. =/ Trust me. You'll eventually find it. I was like that with a few samples. I eventually found them. There is still one more sample to this day I haven't found though. =/ I don't expect anyone to find it either. More likely nisto and I will. ...maybe
by punk7890-2 at 5:30 AM EST on November 10, 2016: Did you try finding a video on Roland BOSS DR660 patches? It could be from there as that game used a lot of samples from that like I mentioned before.
by peronmls at 9:27 AM EST on November 10, 2016: the one at 4:18 sounds like it.

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