Or is the header not going to be decoded?
Its one of my most wanted game soundtracks now, as I have most of the others I want. =)
Grab the torrent here http://tinyurl.com/3l9zkz
...and please help to share. :)
Enjoy.
1) Desmume sucks
2) There are no other open-source emulators that suck more than Desmume, but it still sucks
3) Reinventing the wheel is required
So, I'm sort of wondering where this is going to go from here. Suffice to say that at the moment I have no particular interest in using Desmume anymore, and that I'm going to need to find a better codebase or write one myself.
This whole thing is a mess...
...unless someone's already attempted it and went bust, in which case I'd hope you'll stop me now. :)
Oh, snap.
As a note, Kirby: Canvas Curse tagging is done, I'm just polishing things. Should have taken about four days less time, but I've been too busy with being barefoot and in the kitchen. *grin*
edited 12:44 PM EDT October 9, 2008
to Blitz Lunar: A few of your tags didn't catch what I read in the sound test, so I pretty much ended up going through and re-doing them all anyhow.
trivia: This got me tempted to do a massive chart of how Kirby tracks have evolved through each game in the series with samples of each, but then I realised that 1) I'd have to follow up with Castlevania, and 2) I actually have a life.
special for unknownfile: I KISS YOU!
xx - Coliseum Duel (KNiD) (unused).mini2sf -- this isn't from Nightmare in Dreamland. it's using the soundset from Canvas Curse, so if it's an unused tune from any game it'd be from that.
also, be careful with your times -- 77 - Fanfare ~Short~ (KNiD).mini2sf -- this fades out prematurely, as i presume the other fanfares do (or maybe anything that doesn't loop). i have had this problem myself numerous times. just make them a second longer.
might also be a better idea to remove the (KNiD) tags from the titles, and put it in the game name.
but! other than that, it's good to finally see it tagged - cheers.
edited 6:44 AM EDT October 10, 2008
Does someone have a link to the Mp3 soundtrack if no one wants to attempt a 2SF version of it?
If someone is going to attempt it then brilliant! =D
(From what I understand it has a custom header =/)
So I guess from what you are saying is that you are not going to attempt it (If it even can be attempted)...
Is that the only D.S. game like that?
They do indeed work in VGMTrans! =D
My version says copyright 2002, I wondered if there was a newer version?
They work as I said but of course I want the latest version of it... But 2002 might be the latest version...
Hmm, does that mean it doesn't use a custom header, or is this program just good?
edited 2:37 PM EDT October 10, 2008
DeSmuME_trace.exe "modcrap.nds" --trace_bottom=0 --trace_top=40
hcs made this change so that we wouldn't need to recompile Desmume for every 2sf set that needed to be ripped
psfpoint -_lib="foo.2sflib" *.mini2sf
Of course replace foo.2sflib with your 2sflib file name.
it changes the tag info for xSF files.
edited 9:54 PM EDT October 12, 2008
Source is included for those interested. It uses winmm.dll to get the midi times of converted SSEQs corresponding to the .mini2sf files, so you'll need that (I'm pretty sure it's standard with Windows, but who knows?). The midi files are generated using sseq2mid.exe and set to loop twice (for looping songs only), and once for nonlooping songs (of course).
This tool will also not add fade tags. Although "sseq2mid" handles loops, my code doesn't.
Thanks to the authors of the original tools that make most of the work easier: loveemu, Neill Corlett, and DJ Bouche.
Grab it here.
edited 10:19 PM EDT October 12, 2008
http://fs03u.sendspace.com/processupload.html
Which are of course needed for the optimization, something I highly doubt Omochao did (seeing that Wario game had 3000+ songs and DeSmuME_trace tends to crash fairly often after 100+ songs)...
One more thing: I was wondering how to increase the play time of a .STRM
edited 10:44 PM EDT October 15, 2008
Crash - Mind Over Mutant (2008)(TOSE, Sierra Entertainment, Activision Blizzard)
It will now detect whether a song loops or not by parsing the sseq2mid.exe output. It will add a fade of 1 second for non looping tracks and 10 for looping.
It also outputs the sseq2mid output, the smap, and a psfpoint batch file into a folder called "text" inside the folder your mini2sfs are in.
Grab it here.
More to come...
Why in the world do you restrict downloading sets on the "Manly" site just because the games were released recently? That doesn't make any sense at all. Making people wait doesn't make downloading any more legal.
And the policy is far from Manly. :P
Seriously though, thanks for the site and all the work... even if that doesn't make sense.
edited 1:05 AM EDT October 19, 2008
oops, forgot something. will post soon.
edited 12:26 AM EDT October 22, 2008
I'll just take down all data for the duration of copyright protection period (what is it now, 125 years?).
edited 1:54 PM EDT October 23, 2008
edited 7:41 PM EDT October 23, 2008
Anewuser, that's exactly what I did (if I interpreted your post correctly.)
Nensondubois, grow up?
edited 6:55 PM EDT October 23, 2008
Obviously if you are only concerned with copyright then yes, it is covered equally any time within the obscenely long copyright period. But copyright law is not (yet, at least) something enforced automatically; some action on the part of the copyright holder is required. And that action is more likely to come if the copyright holder feels threatened by the violation. Which is more likely to happen in the time frame immediately following (and preceding!) the release of the OST, as the vast majority of sales are within a few weeks of release of most entertainment products.
Now, I don't think that Knurek is necessarily worried about being served with a takedown notice, nor am I as the host. But what remains is the competition posed by the 2sf set vs the OST release. While we like to spread the good news of music, we don't want to do harm by doing so. People are impatient (which I don't think requires any argument), and without the 2sf option for several months some may choose the OST. Some may not, and may choose to rip the 2sfs themselves or get them from another source, but we don't have to support that. Importantly, we don't have to do anything at all.
I try to avoid the "take what you can get because we don't owe you anything" argument because it feels too confrontational, and I'm trying to explain, not confront. Consider that ripping and sharing this music has its costs and benefits, like anything else.
The costs include the time involved in ripping and maintaining the site, the legal risk, and moral concerns involved with copying creative works.
The benefits include some prestige, and sharing fun stuff with others.
The vast majority of people (myself included) consider the costs too great. We are fortunate that Knurek has considered it worth his time to rip hundreds of games and make them available to us. However, for some games, the cost of the potential offense to the makers outweighs any benefits he perceives. The fact that he even considers this cost, which is a fairly non-obvious cost, indicates that he has given considerable thought to the situation. You're probably not going to argue him out of it. The fact that he cited the duration of copyright like he did should indicate to you that it is not the overriding concern.
So, as a supporter of Knurek's work, I also support his decision on how to manage 2sf Central. If it is wasted effort it is certainly his to waste.
Pretty large, 500 MB this time. Thanks to all the people who contributed to this update (whether by ripping or tagging, both greatly appreciated).
New stuff as usual here:
http://hcs64.com/2sf/new.html
New sets:
Away - Shuffle Dungeon (2008)(Artoon, Mistwalker, AQ Interactive)
Blue Dragon Plus (2008)(FeelPlus, AQ Interactive)
Commando - Steel Disaster (2008)(Mana Comp., XS Games)
Crash Bandicoot - Mind Over Mutant (2008)(Tose, Activision Blizzard)
Dungeon of Windaria (2008)(Compile Heart)
Exit (2008)(Taito)
Front Mission 2089 - Border of Madness (2008)(h.a.n.d., Square Enix)
Galileo (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Hercules no Eikou - Tamashii no Shoumei (2008)(Paon Corporation, Nintendo)
Hoshizora no Comic Garden (2008)(HuneX, D3 Publisher)
K-1 World GP (2007)(D3 Publisher)
Kawaii Koinu DS (2006)(MTO)
Kawaii Koinu DS 2 (2008)(MTO)
Kawaii Koneko DS (2008)(MTO)
Ketsui Death Label (2008)(Cave, Arika)
Kirby Super Star Ultra (2008)(HAL Laboratory, Nintendo)
Kumatanchi (2008)(Dimple)
Legend of Spyro, The - The Eternal Night (2007)(Amaze, Sierra)
Loopop Cube - Loop Salad DS (2008)(Dimple)
Madden NFL 09 (2008)(Electronic Arts)
Major DS - Dream Baseball (2008)(Takara Tomy)
Mechanic Master (2008)(Midway)
Mugen no Frontier - Super Robot Taisen OG Saga (2008)(Monolith, Banpresto, Bandai Namco)
Ochaken no Heya DS 3 (2008)(MTO)
Pop Cutie! Street Fashion Simulation (2008)(Koei)
Power Pro Kun Pocket 10 (2007)(Konami)
Pro Yakyuu Famista DS (2007)(Bandai Namco)
Quiz Magic Academy DS (2008)(Konami)
Rain Drops (2008)(UFO Interactive)
Retro Game Challenge (2007)(Bandai Namco)
Saihai no Yukue (2008)(Koei)
Shinreigari - Ghost Hound DS (2008)(5pb)
Simple DS Series Vol. 37 - Arc de Minitsuku! Toeic Test Listening Kyouka Hen (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 38 - Arc de Manabu! Toeic Test Hajimete Hen (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 39 - The Shouboutai (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 40 - The Gekai (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 41 - The Bakudan Shori-Han (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 42 - The Haioku Byoutou (2008)(D3 Publisher)
Simple DS Series Vol. 44 - The Gal Mahjong (2008)(D3 Publisher)
SNK vs. Capcom Card Fighters DS (2006)(SNK Playmore)
Soul Bubbles (2008)(Mekensleep, Eidos)
Soul Eater - Medusa no Inbou (2008)(Bandai Namco)
Spectral Force Genesis (2007)(Idea Factory)
Steal Princess - Touzoku Oujo (2008)(Climax, Marvelous)
Steel Horizon (2007)(Konami)
Summon Night (2008)(Flight Plan, Bandai Namco)
Super Dodgeball Brawlers (2008)(Million, Arc System Works)
Tak - Mojo Mistake (2008)(THQ)
The Price is Right (2008)(Ubisoft)
Wagamama Fashion - Girls Mode (2008)(Nintendo)
Ys DS (2008)(Falcom, Interchannel-Holon)
Ys II DS (2008)(Falcom, Interchannel-Holon)
Updates:
Kirby - Canvas Curse (2005)(HAL Laboratory, Nintendo)
Ripped a while ago, but available for download now:
Bangai-O Spirits (2008)(Treasure, ESP)
Otometeki Koi Kakumei * Love Revo!! DS (2008)(Interchannel-Holon)
Time Hollow - Ubawareta Kako o Motomete (2008)(Tenky, Konami)
Ripped, not available for download yet:
Castlevania - Order of Ecclesia (2008)(Konami)
Culdcept DS (2008)(Sega)
Fire Emblem - Shin Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Ken (2008)(Intelligent Systems, Nintendo) - taken down since there's an OST release upcoming
Kimi no Yusha (2008)(SNK Playmore)
Professor Layton and the Curious Village (2007)(Level 5) - taken down since there's an OST release upcoming
Rhythm Heaven (2008)(Nintendo)
edited 12:36 PM EDT October 25, 2008
It's definitely in contrast to how American/European developers traditionally throw in existing licensed songs and call it hard work, or hiring famous film composers who flaunt their mega-bux gigastudio symphony racks as a lure to spit out uninspiring tripe into a loose hodgepodge (lol sonic chronicles lol).
This was in reference to the method used by Japanese developers in regards to music. While I agree that the music to Sonic Chronicles is... simple... I would also say that, although it could be better (hopefully the sequal will be (if there's a sequal)), it's not too bad. It fits the game reasonably well. I do think Richard Jacques wrote the streamed songs (battle music mostly/entirely), but I doubt (or should I say "I hope he didn't") he wrote the sequenced stuff. If I were to rate the music (the sequences), I'd say it was above average (in this scale, starting at average, there's "average," "above average," "good," "really good," and "Wow!" Something that I'd list under "really good/Wow" might be... something from Deep Labyrinth? Yasunori Mitsuda did a really good job with limited resources. I'm sure there's better examples, but I can't think of very many right now).
Something interesting I found when trying to find the correct spelling of Richard Jacques' name was this. Apparently, the music to Sonic Chronicles is using stuff from Gameboy hardware (that's how I read it), which might partially explain why it sounds... odd... sometimes. On a similar note, I decided to look up the review on Metacritic. It has a 74 out of 100 average. I disagree. Any game that can keep me up past 5 am multiple times in four days is definitely better than a 74. And this is keeping in mind that I have to get up at 6:30 am to go to some of my college classes.
As for the music though, I will agree with most people that it's disappointing. Not because it's bad (though, I suspect that many people think it is), but because of the wasted potential it had. It's okay. Hopefully it will be better if a sequel comes out (if a sequel does come out, I will almost certainly buy it without thinking twice).
[EDIT] Ah man!!! I just found some of these links. While the music in the game is okay, some of this stuff would have been *!WAY!* better!!! (linked in order that the 2SF set has them in (first 4 songs). Though, I don't recall if the Chao Garden has its own song in the game.)
Green Hill Zone
Central City
Mystic Ruins
Blue Ridge Zone
Chao Garden
Worth a mention - From some trailer
Apparently, all of those songs are pulled from some trailer for the game somewhere. I have no idea of their validity (as in, whether they were part of the game's development process at all, ever), so perhaps those songs were never meant to be part of the game anyway. Or, perhaps they weren't used because the game's data would have taken up too much space on the NDS cart, and they were therefore cut out, resulting in the music the game has now.
In regards to that, I thought this was interesting. This (Green Hill Zone) is the music in the game. Looking at the date, it was posted before the one I linked above. Perhaps these were "placeholder" tracks with the intention of replacing them with better music. But as development went further, they realized they wouldn't be able to include the "replacements," so they kept the "placeholders" instead. Personally, I'm somewhat doubting this, because the difference in the dates (and the release of the game) are such that I would have expected them to have relized the spatial concerns long before those post dates. I don't know either way, but it is still disappointing... Mouser X over and out.
edited 9:36 PM EDT October 25, 2008
Knurek, awesome work as always.
Also, since SDAT tool only extracts an sseq file once (based on the id column in the smap), some files end up in the "Unused or Empty" folder, be sure to check that these files are really empty. If they are not, find the matching file id for another sseq file in the smap and use that timing info. I'll see if I can add this logic to the timer soon, but it's something I've encountered that could lead to missing tunes if you are not careful.
Anyhow, enjoy. Grab it here.
edited 12:12 AM EDT October 26, 2008
I should know; I just spent the last hour re-naming the ripped tracks to rid the files of their poorly-Romanized Japanophelia.
I have to give it credit for what it's worth, though; the looped tracks all have a proper 10 second fade. They're not all quite exact, but it's enough to be considered uniform, which tickles me just right. Mmmmm....
edited 2:58 AM EDT October 29, 2008
I'm in Oz and yeah game won't be released to sometime rediculous like Jan 09.. Have to just import it I guess .. can kiss the chances of getting that cd too unless we import it. stupid stupid stupid ! All us PAL users get screwed as usual.. Lucky the ds isn't region locked Thank F***ing christ :D
Here's to all the guys who helped with this and to another 500 sets.
Specifically:
ys-0000
ys-0007
ys-000a
ys-000e
I'm having similar problems with some Ys II songs. :(
edited 10:17 PM EDT October 29, 2008
ok, i'll do it whenever i get around to it. that'll be next to never due to current smse2k/mess/mame development stuffs.
also 777 posts in this thread yayaya
edited 9:28 AM EDT October 30, 2008
wait what? is this a real thing that's happening?
A 2sf (and PSF and GSF and such) file is just a sort of link/pointer/whatever to the actual sequence file inside of the *.*sflib, right? And that "library" (right?) also holds the sound samples the sequences use, correct?
Assuming I'm correct here, shouldn't it be possible - or rather, is it possible - to disassemble the library and extract both the sequence data and the sound samples?
What I'm getting at is basically this: could you, theoretically, extract a sequence file, find a way of interpreting the data in it, and alter them in order to create a different song? And then recompile the sflib and have the song play like a normal 2sf, or even properly in the game itself?
I mean, if that is the case, I'm sure theres complications in terms of making the game/hardware not freak out over the fact that you've altered the data, checksums and all that business.
Along the same lines, would it be possible, assuming I haven't struck out yet, to replace a sound sample with another sound sample in the library file? (with the same problems as altering the sequence, of course)
Taking Yoshi's Island ROM and changing it's music files to those from different games.
As you can see it works pretty well in most of the cases.
Well, I gave Drone Tactics the ol' college try, and FAILED. My computer simply does not want to use VGMTrans or the ripkit...it absolutely REFUSES to do so.
Knurek, have you had the chance to look into that title for yourself, please? As much as I'd like to "give back to the community", Vista has other plans. <:\
In other words, Drone Tactics is ripped...
Meh, Shiren 2 DS uses Procyon Studio custom driver. :(
edited 6:17 PM EST November 11, 2008
Thanks! :D
Thanks
I use it to play Pokémon Diamond NDS file. (It plays despite the custom driver and header)
VGMTrans.rar
I have tried exporting the DLS files but Synthfont doesn't like them. The MIDI exports work well though.
edited 2:04 PM EST November 13, 2008
But I have no idea why it doesn't like the DLSs...
Having said all of that, it seems to be hopeless, it just doesn't like using all the DLS sounds even in Winamp...
Argh... Its getting odd now, if I add the DLS to my soundcards input (Soundblaster Live 5.1), it comes out fineish... =/
edited 11:29 AM EST November 15, 2008
More than half of those are outside contributions, so I want to thank all the guys that pitched in.
New stuff as usual here:
http://hcs64.com/2sf/new.html
New sets:
Air Traffic Chaos (2007)(Sonic Powered, Interchannel-Holon)
Akagawa Jirou Mystery - Tsuki no Hikari (2008)(Marvelous)
Atsumare! Power Pro Kun no DS Koushien (2006)(Konami)
Avalon Code (2008)(Matrix, Marvelous)
Breath - Toiki wa Akaneiro (2008)(Success)
Call of Duty - World at War (2008)(n-Space, Activision Blizzard)
Chi's Sweet Home - Chi ga Ouchi ni Yatte Kita! (2008)(Interchannel-Holon)
Cid to Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon - Toki Wasure no Meikyuu DS+ (2008)(Square Enix)
Contact (2006)(Grasshopper Manufacture, Marvelous)
Days of Memories 2 (2008)(SNK Playmore)
Doodle Hex (2008)(Tragnarion Studios, Pinnacle)
Dragon Ball - Origins [Dragon Ball DS] (2008)(Game Republic, Bandai Namco)
Drone Tactics (2007)(Success)
Ed, Edd & Eddy - Scam of the Century (2007)(D3 Publisher)
Elements of Destruction (2007)(THQ)
Elminage DS Remix - Yami no Fuo to Kamigami no Yubiwa (2008)(Starfish SD)
F24 - Stealth Fighter (2007)(Majesco)
FIFA 09 (2008)(Electronic Arts)
Game & Watch Collection 2 (2008)(Nintendo)
Gyakkyou Burai Kaiji - Death or Survival (2008)(Idea Factory, Compile Heart)
Honeycomb Beat (2006)(Hudson Soft)
Hoshigami - Ruining Blue Earth Remix (2007)(Barnhouse Effect, ASNetworks)
Ikatan - Ikamono Tantei (2008)(CyberFront)
Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ (2008)(EnjoyUp, Gammick Entertainment)
Maths Made Simple [Zennou Series Vol. 02 - Indo Shiki Keisan Drill DS] (2008)(ASK Kodansha)
My World My Way [Sekai wa Atashi de Mawatteru] (2008)(Global A)
Otoshi Deka - Keiji-san, Watashi ga Yarimashita (2008)(Beyond Interactive, Success)
Pingu no Waku Waku Carnival! (2008)(Square Enix)
Pokemon Ranger (2006)(HAL Laboratory, Nintendo)
Pokemon Ranger - Shadows of Almia [Pokemon Ranger - Batonnage] (2008)(Nintendo)
Power Pocket Koushien (2005)(Konami)
Prey the Stars [Gabu Gabu Planet] (2008)(Koei)
Princess Maker 4 Special Edition (2008)(Gainax, CyberFront)
Quest Trio - Jewels, Cards and Tiles, The (2008)(Activision)
Shugo Chara! - 3 Tsu no Tamagoto Koisuru Joker (2008)(Konami)
Shugo Chara! - Amu no Nijiiro Chara Change (2008)(Konami)
Smart Girl's Party Game [Dekitayo! Mama, Wannyon Club - Onna no Ko] [I Did It Mum! 2 (Girl)] (2008)(Starfish)
Spider-Man - Web of Shadows (2008)(Griptonite Games, Activision)
Spore Creatures (2008)(Maxis, Electronic Arts)
Tactical Guild (2008)(Success)
Tetsudou Musume DS - Terminal Memory (2008)(Takara Tomy)
Theresia - Dear Emile (2008)(WorkJam, Arc System Works)
Tornado [SuperLite 2500 - Tornado V] (2008)(Success, Ignition)
Unsolved Crimes (2008)(Now Production, Atari)
Wind of the Nostalgeo (2008)(Matrix, Tecmo)
Yajuu Deka - Tokyo Douji Tahatsu Terror wo Chinatsu Seyo! (2008)(Success)
Yes! Precure 5 Go Go Zenin Shu Go! Dream Festival (2008)(Bandai Namco)
Zettai Karen Children DS - Dai-4 no Children (2008)(Konami)
Zombie Shiki Eigoryoku Soseijutsu - English of the Dead (2008)(Sega)
Updates:
Exit (2008)(Taito) - added composer info from staff roll
Castlevania - Order of Ecclesia [Akumajou Dracula - Ubawareta Kokuin] (2008)(Konami) - fully tagged
Knights in the Nightmare (2008)(Sting) - fully tagged
Ripped a while ago, but available for download now:
Lost in Blue 3 (2007)(Konami)
Ripped, not available for download yet:
Valkyrie Profile - Covenant of the Plume (2008)(tri-Ace, Square Enix)
For now it only extracts SEQ and STRM files. It generates an smap, but only contains the SEQ section. The SEQ section is missing HSIZE data.
It's obviously not complete, but it's enough to help rippers with games that crash the other tool. Grab it here.
Hope that helps. Mouser X over and out.
And as for set contributions, only thing you need to do is make the clean 2sf pack (so, fully optimized). Don't want to host a 20 MB file when it can be shoretend to 2 MB.
I can do all the other stuff, like timing and basic tagging, just provide the 2sfs and region from which the music was ripped.
edited 3:31 PM EST November 16, 2008
How does VGMTrans do it if that is the case?