I don't like the music as much as the orignals, but I would like to hear how much they have ruined it all.
I have to be honest. DS ripping is a horrid weak point for me, whether it because of my computer's settings or just lack of experience. There's 2 JPN DS games that I have been trying to get music from, but as I have tried several emulators before, it just doesn't work well for me. They are the following:
1320 - Hana Saku DS Gardening Life (J)(Loli).nds
1894 - Anata Dake no Private Lesson - DS de Hajimeru - Tipness no Yoga (J).nds
If anyone with more experience has the spare time to do extractions for these 2, then it would be greatly apreciated. (I am able to send said roms as well) Of course, if requests of this sort are not allowed, then that's fine.
1) Open the SDAT Finder tool underneath Misc Tools > Extraction Tools > Nintendo DS. Drag and drop the rom onto the box at the top.
2) Goto the SDAT Extractor right above the SDAT Finder. Drag and drop the SDAT file extracted in step 1 onto the box at the top.
3) Install the vgmstream winamp plugin and enjoy or make wav files with the appropriate output plugin or whatever.
Anata Dake no Private Lesson - DS de Hajimeru - Tipness no Yoga contains sequences. Again, you can use VGMToolbox to rip it, if you don't want to wait for it to appear in the Manly Archive.
1) Goto Misc Tools > xSF Tools > 2SF > 2SF Ripper (Old Format)
2) Put the path to Yoshi's Island (Eu) rom in the container rom text box.
3) Put a file prefix in the Set Name Prefix text box.
4) Drag and Drop the Anata... rom onto the box up top.
5) When the emu appears for the first time, hit <Enter> after the title and wait for some message box. Click ok, and close the emu.
6) When the emu appears for the second time, wait for the message box (this will take a little while, notice the counter in the title bar of the emu) and close the emu after clicking ok. Let the program do some stuff and wait for it to finish (tool name should turn green or watch the text box below)
7) Goto the rips folder underneath VGMToolbox and look for your .2sf files.
8) Open the 2sf Timer tool and enter the path to your 2sf files, the SDAT for the set (should be in a subfolder of the folder with the 2sfs), and the file prefix you used in step 3.
9) Download the winamp 2sf plugin, link found elsewhere in this thread (probably), and enjoy or make wav files with the appropriate output plugin or whatever.
Edit: Sorry if you just wanted the tunes, but since you enjoy ripping I figured I'd do the whole "teach a man to fish" thing.
edited 4:03 PM EST February 28, 2009
Everything is possible, just a question of time, skill and motivation.
Unless you're asking if it's working with our one-click, no-brain method. Then no.
Anyways, Manly Update:
new:
Chibi Maruko-chan DS - Maru-chan no Machi (2009)(Banpresto, Bandai Namco)
Chou-Gekijou-Ban Keroro Gunsou - Gekishin Dragon Warriors de Arimasu! (2009)(Inti Creates, Bandai Namco)
Coraline (2009)(Art, D3Publisher)
Destiny Links (2009)(Bandai Namco)
Garaku Tale (2006)(Dyna-Method, Koei)
Harukanaru Toki no Naka de - Mai Hito Yo (2006)(Koei)
Heavy Armor Brigade [Tank Beat 2 - Gekitotsu! Deutsch-gun vs. Rengou-gun] (2009)(Milestone)
Hidamari Sketch - Doko Demo Sugoroku x365 (2009)(Idea Factory)
Hirameki Action - Chibikko Wagyan no Daiki na Bouken (2009)(Bandai Namco)
Itouke no Urawaza DS (2008)(Spike)
Lode Runner (2006)(Tozai, Hudson Soft)
Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (2009)(Alphadream, Nintendo)
Meitantei Conan & Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbou - Meguri au 2-Jin no Meitantei (2009)(Bandai Namco)
Momotarou Dentetsu DS - Tokyo & Japan (2007)(Hudson Soft)
Nippon Curling Kyoukai Kounin - Minna no Curling DS (2006)(Rocket Company)
Puzzle Mate DS - Oekaki Mate (2008)(Idea Factory, Compile Heart)
Shining Force Feather (2009)(Flight-Plan, Sega)
Taiheiyou no Arashi DS - Senkan Yamato, Akatsuki ni Shutsugeki Su! (2009)(SystemSoft)
Tetsudou Seminar - Oote Shitetsuhen (2009)(Taito)
updated:
Lunar - Dragon Song [Lunar Genesis] (2005)(Japan Art Media, GameArts)(Marvelous) - proper developer info
Mario & Luigi - Partners in Time [Mario & Luigi RPG 2x2] (2005)(AlphaDream, Nintendo) - added songs that are exclusive to JPN version.
Retro Game Challenge [Game Center CX - Arino no Chousenjou] (2007)(Indies Zero)(Bandai Namco) - proper developer info, composers from staff roll
Trauma Center - Under the Knife 2 [Kyuukyuu Kyuumei Caduceus 2] (2008)(Vanguard, Atlus) - proper developer info, tags from sound test
Yoshi's Island DS (2006)(Artoon, Nintendo) - tags by VGSB
ripped earlier, available for download:
Dark Spire, The [Genmu no Tou to Tsurugi no Okite] (2008)(Success)
Metal Slug 7 (2008)(SNK Playmore)
http://2sf.hcs64.com/new.html
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ba4dv5
M&L3 with tags:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0ygxce
In addition to that, I also ripped RockMan EXE 5, one that was known to not work with the one click no-brain method. (I am devising a substitute one click no-brain setup that can be tried. This game just happens to be the first one tested for it.)
What's the story with Super Princess Peach again? Last time I checked, there were a million files, few of which played.
On another note, has any progress been made on the Sonic Rush Adventure rip? It has been about 5 months since I last saw anything from bxaimc about it.
check back next weekend
also screw you cs2, i hate you and your no$gba which i do not have
mumble grumble
thanks anyways
Just to show all of you how one click no-brain this is gonna be, here's another YIsland nonworking game, Dramatic Dungeon: Sakura Taisen - Kimi Arugatame (2008)(Neverland)(Sega):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5rb5a7
Took someone as braindead as me (well, after 3 hours of sleep followed by 8 hours of work) about 10 minutes.
POKEY
POKEYMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN
edited 4:58 PM EST March 2, 2009
Basically, put the sdat file to be turned into 2sf's into the rip kit dir, and specify on command line "2sftool prefix sdatfile start_track end_track".
No save states involved.
7th Dragon
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6QSONWPL
I guess I can put up the newest spec revision which officially gets rid of this savestate matter once and for all.
Knurek, get your ass into gear!
Oh, also, 2sf Central has been updated to remove some unneeded crap, and also some sort of rip tool page which will be updated when I post more stuff.
edited 11:53 AM EST March 3, 2009
And yea, gonna update every set eventually save YI since it uses original driver.
edited 2:13 PM EST March 3, 2009
Also, 2sf specification revision 7, now with 100% less savestates and 100% more future DSiWare support.
vio2sf is based off parts of HW also making it a piece of shit too?
HW is being rewritten to support new rips because neither of those programs work?
Highly Whatever is a piece of shit?
vio2sf is based off parts of HW also making it a piece of shit too?
HW is being rewritten to support new rips because neither of those programs work?
This is relevant to my interests.
it's called Super Princess Peach
http://2sf.hcs64.com/rerip_status.html
Updated daily, at least for a while.
See the commandline for usage. You can either select a range of SSEQs to keep or keep ALL SSEQs. It will have very obvious results on SDATs with STRMs, and decent results on SDATs where you've filtered out SFX via the SSEQ selection.
I've got some more features planned/requested, so I'll post when they're completed.
edited 6:36 PM EST March 4, 2009
EDIT: Well, here's my first submission. I'm very fond of trying more:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=90GWUF3U
Hana Saku DS Gardening Life
edited 7:16 PM EST March 4, 2009
Great to hear. I'm glad you didn't give up man.
EDIT: BTW, the other process I described is now outdated. Don't waste your time with it yet. Maybe the new process will be documented soon...
edited 7:21 PM EST March 4, 2009
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mxs9fr
Works fine in No$GBA and other emulators.
Also, use this batch for massively fast ripping (requires CaitSith2 ripkit, snakemeat tools (sdatopt, 2sftimer), psfpoint and SDAT from the game in c:\ndsrip. Just edit the parameters at the beginning and run.
set prefix=
set start_song=
set end_song=
set artist=
set copyright=
set year=
set game=
set xsfby=
sdatopt %prefix%.sdat %start_song% %end_song%
2sftool %prefix% %prefix%_OPTIMIZED.sdat %start_song% %end_song%
psfpoint -artist="%artist%" *.mini2sf
psfpoint -copyright="%copyright%" *.mini2sf
psfpoint -year="%year%" *.mini2sf
psfpoint -game="%game%" *.mini2sf
psfpoint -2sfby="%xsfby%" *.mini2sf
psfpoint -comment="uses Legacy of Ys: Book II driver hacked by Caitsith2" *.mini2sf
2sftimer c:\ndsrip\ c:\ndsrip\%prefix%.sdat %prefix%
del %prefix%_OPTIMIZED.sdat
edited 7:22 PM EST March 4, 2009
but I have seen no problems with the SPP rip in Desmume, so it's likely a plugin issue
edited 7:46 PM EST March 4, 2009
set gdir=%1
set prefix=%2
set start_song=%3
set end_song=%4
set artist=%5
set copyright=%6
set year=%7
set game=%8
set xsfby=%9
mkdir %gdir%
sdatopt %prefix%.sdat %start_song% %end_song%
2sftool %gdir%\%prefix% %prefix%_OPTIMIZED.sdat %start_song% %end_song%
psfpoint -artist="%artist%" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
psfpoint -copyright="%copyright%" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
psfpoint -year="%year%" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
psfpoint -game="%game%" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
psfpoint -2sfby="%xsfby%" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
psfpoint -comment="uses Legacy of Ys: Book II driver hacked by Caitsith2" %gdir%\*.mini2sf
2sftimer %gdir% %prefix%.sdat %prefix%
del %prefix%_OPTIMIZED.sdat
If gdir == prefix, then 100% of the work is completely undone by 2sftimer.
This is due to the folders 2sftimer chooses to unpack the SDAT into. I'll make a modification and upload a change. It'll likely begin exporting to a folder named after SDAT_Working or something...
Found another bug, that crashes when you specify an sdat file that does not exist, rather than be told that it couldn't open the sdat.
Chalk that up to laziness...
EDIT:
Uploaded a new pack here that should hopefully fix the issues. Thanks for the input.
edited 11:17 PM EST March 4, 2009
vio2sf v0.15 released. Appears to have fixed the broken track 0. Thanks to the author.
There was originally an API in place for possible switching between emulation cores, but seeing as how reliable Desmume has become, this API is being removed because it sucks.
I would also ask Elven to not be annoying me while doing code, otherwise he will be assigned the task of doing everything himself.
Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at VGMToolbox.format.sdat.Smap.initializeSseq(Sdat pSdat)
at VGMToolbox.format.sdat.Smap..ctor(Sdat pSdat)
at _2sftimer.Program.Main(String[] args)
Probably due to not existing names of sseqs extracted.
And oh is it beautiful.
Fixed, forgot to move the code that checks whether the symbol section is present or not to the Smap class. Here's a fixed pack.
Thanks for the input.
0.16 (2009/03/06)
Fixed:Skipped silent songs although these had length information.
- I believe this fixes NTR-ANOP-EUR-0000.mini2sf from Trace Memory and any song that had silence at beginning.
Thanks to the author.
edited 11:55 AM EST March 6, 2009
Checked in No$GBA, and it doesn't look like vio2sf bug this time around - songs that play in the plugin play fine, rest does not play.
Any other game I've till now tried worked 100% fine or didn't work at all (Nanostray).
edited 6:21 PM EST March 6, 2009
Check Knurek's post on the previous page for a nice batch for fast and easy ripping. CaitSith2's batch is very similar too. Both of those batches require CaitSith2's ripkit (linked in the past page or two) and my commandline tools (linked 4 posts up from this). You can extract SDATs using VGMToolbox (as described in my instructional post) or using NDSTool to extract a rom and search for the .sdat file.
//Edit
http://2sf.hcs64.com/rip_list.html is up to date
edited 8:59 PM EST March 6, 2009
1. For games using multiple SDATs, create a rip on the *largest* SDAT, unpack 2sflib, zero out everything after SDAT starts, repack as driver.2sflib.
2. Take any SDAT, append 2sf header (0x9c910e00 + size of sdat), bin2psf to sdat_name.2sflib
Everything works so far, if I rename sdat_name.2sflib to .2sf, add _lib=driver.2sflib tag and try to play it works fine (provided there's a 0x00 song of course).
3. Take CaitSith2 generated mini2sf, add _lib=driver.2sflib, _lib2=sdat_name.2sflib tags.
The problem is, files made like that don't play. At all. Changing lib order only crashes vio2sf...
Anyone seeing anything here?
Nintendo History class is over! Remember, Your NES homework is due tomorrow!
Proper procedure of _lib loading.
_lib = Main rom with everything required.
mini2sf = patch rom that changes the song. Usually one or two bytes patched.
_lib2, _lib3, etc.. = patch rom that changes other bytes, or loads in other data in place of existing data.
So basically, _lib is loaded first right into ram.
_lib2 is then patched into the memory that _lib takes up. If this would exceed boundaries that _lib took, reallocate the size of _lib.
Then mini2sf is applied on top of _lib, same procedures.
This really should have been implementted into the player even if it wasn't used at the moment. If you need some help, look at the source code of highly advanced. It is implemented there.
edited 5:19 PM EDT March 9, 2009
Well, having this would shave a few megs off of Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure sets, so hoping for new vio2sf version. :)
because highlywhatever sounds better for something else
There's a bug in the xsflib loading code, and the default behaviour loads mini2sf first and then overlays the 2sflib on to that.
Since mini2sf have the song select code, what you will get is song 0x00 playing for all files.
Obviously an oversight, if you still intend to update (no other changes listed, so really no use I guess) adding _vio2sf_loader_type=1 tag to all mini2sf files will fix the situation.
edited 12:47 PM EDT March 11, 2009
I congratulate your drawing, it made me laugh, like the nenson one.
Its only about 2 tracks not working properly (from what I can tell), ( i.e. dropping instruments), but apparently is "I't doesn't work" outright...
And it didn't even rip before the updates, so its some improvement.
edited 8:15 PM EDT March 11, 2009
edited 10:38 PM EDT March 11, 2009
edited 3:19 AM EDT March 13, 2009
please try again later
I've converted the SDAT Finder to a commandline tool to hopefully allow for batch file use. sdatfind.exe will search a file for SDATs and extract them to a folder called "filename_sdatfind", where filename is the original file's name without the extension.
I've also updated the SDAT Optimizer. It can accept input in 2sflib format so you do not need to rerip sets to optimize them. It also has two new features, the PREP and MAP functions. PREP will output an SSEQ SMAP with indexes in the first column. Delete the SSEQ rows you don't want in your rip and call the MAP function to optimize. BE sure to leave the first two rows as the tool blindly skips the first two rows in its parsing. The PREP/MAP is good for games where SFX are mixed in the middle of BGM and using a range will not be effective.
You can grab it here.
edited 12:19 PM EDT March 15, 2009
Kirby Super Star Ultra
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
The latter set is only partially timed. I'm not sure why there are some files from the Japanese version that sound the same from their English language counterparts.
edited 3:55 PM EDT March 15, 2009
Thanks.
by the way, dan miyakawa isn't mentioned at all on KSSU, so it seems a bad idea to credit him (by bad i know, since i did this originally). it's just ishikawa and ando credited for it. my guess is ando did only the new tracks - it's a shame there's no more specific information available (yet? pending more scans maybe?)
http://vgmdb.net/album/10970
i would really love to know exactly WHAT miyakawa did towards the original SNES game. there's nothing in the original soundtrack that suggests anything but ishikawa.
I've compared the name on the website and the movie list in the game and have now updated the names.
edited 3:56 PM EDT March 15, 2009
super princess peach doesn't work in vio2sf
please fix this for me because i'm a lazy fuckface
sample track
also i think i have a semi-working adx player for 2sfs, but i dont know what to do with it mainly because nobody cares
I used to see "Elite Beat Agents" and "Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2" in the .2sf page: http://www.hcs64.com/2sf/ but i don't see it anymore.
Is "Elite Beat Agents" and "Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2" in a re-ripping process?
Thanks
edited 3:32 AM EDT March 25, 2009
Read the third footnote in first post in this thread: http://hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php?showthread=14125
@CaitSith2:
I have that even tagged locally, but: http://vgmdb.net/album/11473
edited 3:53 AM EDT March 25, 2009
Time Hollow
Time Hollow (奪われた過去を求めて), 28 tracks (3 STRMs, 25 2SFs)
(Note, the rip is from the US version, except for the inclusion of the Japanese version of the main theme, Time Hollow)
Composers are:
Masanori Akita
Junichi Yoshida
Chuji Nagaoka
Release date was September 29, 2008. developer was Tenky, publisher was Konami.
Ripped and tagged by me, as I mentioned earlier, I had a little help from snakemeat and manakoAT (they basically showed me the tools and guided me along as I did it). Tags were based on the official OST: http://vgmdb.net/album/7240
edited 1:42 AM EDT May 30, 2009
edited 1:43 AM EDT May 30, 2009
edited 1:44 AM EDT May 30, 2009
Fossil Fighters 2sf, total 98 tracks (16 STRMs , 78 2SFs).
[Detail]
Release:[JP] Apr. 17, 2008 / [US] Aug. 10, 2009
Publisher:Nintendo
Designer:Red Entertainment
Developer:Artdink, Studio Artdink, M2
dynamic tracks 2sf by jurassicPieter at 4:46 AM EDT on July 17, 2009
Hey, I found a way to split tracks for dynamic tracks with 2sfs. You don't need to know assembler, only the generic rip kit and tools to edit the sdat file.
Here's the example where I split the museum track from Animal Crossing Wild World.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6M59UQK7
Software I used:
some kiwi.ds software i found on a forum that allows you to convert a directory into a sdat file. I have to google it again to find it.
vgmtoolbox and testpack.nds
Steps:
1. extract sdat from the nintendo ds rom
2. open the kiwi.ds editor and extract the sdat
3. open a hex editor and load the sseq you want to split. Look at offset 0x40 where you see FE followed by 2 bytes telling which channels it uses. If you change these 2 bytes you can mute channels.
4. with the kiwi.ds editor recreate the sdat file
5. and use the generic rip creator to build the 2sf again.
Nice find. It seems like an additional .mini2sf could be created using the original .mini2sf as its _lib to modify the values for track selection in multi-track SSEQs. Either that or the _lib2 tag; but as the pointed out in the 2sf thread, it doesn't seem to work with the plugin.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can elaborate a bit here. Would you use an additional .mini2sf to modify the SDAT (the second time) or another _lib? Does a .mini2sf that has another .mini2sf as its _lib just try to modify the .mini2sf in its _lib tag or the SDAT pointed to by the .mini2sf in its _lib tag?
edited 2:25 AM EDT July 18, 2009
I made the entire acww soundtrack with dynamic tracks(srry for the subdirectory structure, gives me more structure and overview, but also dupes of the 2sflib files):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=33THR83Q
It also contains missing songs in the wave library(mainly the TV channels and nintendo items, like Starman, Metroid and the Master Sword) as genh files. So it's as complete as it can be.
And Mario Kart DS(tagged and with sped up versions of the race tracks):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZ5SBJD6
the sped up versions are 1.25x faster as long the tempo doesn't exceed 240(the maximum tempo possible that works without glitches), which only 2 racetracks had, so i changed it into 240.
If you use the generic ripkit on the edited sseq, only 2 bytes are changed. A tempo change(for final laps in mario kart ds) needs more bytes changed since you need to change every E1 instruction in the sseq. I don't think a DS game can change the sdat file on the fly.
A change would only be possible if you change the source code of the player and change the response to these commands. A changed player that actually plays the files 25% too fast would help a lot, not only for mario kart ds, but any game that uses this approach of hurrying.
If there are troubles with the tags or dynamic tracks, i want to hear it.
I tried different methods first for pruning for the dynamic tracks, but I get silence or it's only using gba sounds, not the changed soundbank.
I can't get them smaller easily.
edited 12:42 PM EDT July 20, 2009
edited 12:44 PM EDT July 20, 2009
I'm specifically thinking of Tingle's Rosy Colored Rupeeland. I probably won't ever get around to tagging it, or finishing the game, but I'm pretty confident at least one of the bosses uses a dynamic track. Let's see....umm, can't do winamp right now, so I can't confirm, but I think it's this mini2sf:
NTR-ACHP-EUR-0054
I might be missing a variant somewhere, but I'm pretty sure that's the only version of the theme that plays when you fight the main boss of the Deku Tree (or Deku Tree-alike) dungeon. I can't remember exactly how (ugh, my memory is getting worse), but as part of the battle you have to launch yourself at the bosses head, and while you're flying towards the boss, an extra channel of the song kicks in. That channel is muted when you're just dodging the bosses attacks. Once again, I'd load up Winamp if WINE didn't lock up my system last time I tried it, but I *think* that the extra channel adds in a variant of the Zelda 64 Lost Woods theme that you hear several times throughout the dungeon.
My point is, if there was a way to know in advance that certain tracks did stuff like that, it would be pretty awesome.
According to an unofficial spec, Section 2.2, the 0xFE command does indicate multi-track. I don't think it means that there would necessarily be tune variations used in the game, but tracks could be selectively turned on or off and compared to an OST or a game play through.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a way to do this without making multiple 2sflibs which will take up too much space to exhaustively check each song. Maybe someone with knowledge can explain how this could be done with nested .mini2sfs or using _lib, _lib2 tags? I've already gone through this in my previous post, so I won't drag it on here.
Nothing can be done about this until the plugin gets fixed, but I couldn't make Pluginja understand what was needed to be fixed last time I've tried, sorry.
Kirby Super Star Ultra, updated to 155 tracks, and with the track names from the Japanese versions.
Rhythm Heaven (Rhythm Tengoku Gold), needs tags, ripped from Japanese version.
P.S.: I checked out the MKDS soundtrack, and as far as I know, there's supposed to be a second version of Logo Intro where Mario says "Yahoo" instead of "Here we go". And good luck trying to find out how to alter the pitch of the sped-up songs.
edited 8:18 AM EDT July 22, 2009
If you want to be a real completionist, there should be a hit by lightning version of the racetracks too. Anyone who has an idea how they did that?
one problem i've noticed at the moment though - 31 of the tracks only have the title field filled out, missing the game name, composer, date, 2sfby and copyright fields. i'll fix these for my set but i thought you should know.
And yes, it's Frappe Snowland, not Sherbet Land, thx for the incorrect one.
As for a sped up version of Boss Battle Tune: i have never finished mission mode, but world 7 has a race against a Wiggler where you race laps, so I guessed there should be a sped up version too. I just checked youtube and noticed there's not even a boss theme playing when you face wiggler.
Also I'm working on New Super Mario Bros. and Tetris DS. For New Super Mario Bros. besides sped up versions only Bowser Badlands and maybe Bob-omb Squad mini-game have dynamic tracks.
Tetris DS is only annoying for DK Push with 7 different versions now separated in 3 tracks.
FYI, if you are looking for other games that have dynamic tracks, the Main Menu Theme for Mario Vs. DK 2 is dynamic. The theme changes based on which world you are in.
Besides Baby Park, Donut Plains and Tick Tock Clock were also sped up for half(Donut Plains reverted back to normal speed after one loop)
Now it can replace the original one on the 2sf website.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PI0AUJ4F
Also, more dynamic tracks are to be found in Metroid Prime: Hunters.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RWP38LTO
Noticed hexediting the sdat is all you need in most cases. In fact technically it can be automated, since all you need is reading all sseqs and change all tempo events. Then make2sf and voila. Only testing is annoying since vio2sf remembers the last played 2sf.
I'm still a bit confused about the tempo above 240 thing since it plays accurate enough.
At least channel muting is easier done.
edited 7:32 PM EDT July 27, 2009