CaitSith2 was also working on Blast Corps last I'd heard, but that was a while ago. He sent me a timed set which is in the preliminary directory.
volume tags by wrldwzrd89 at 2:46 PM EDT on May 27, 2005
I'm considering applying volume tags to all of the USF sets I have. The vast majority of them need a boost of 2 - the most notable exception is the preliminary Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards rip, which needs a boost of 5 before it sounds loud enough.
For People who want a nearly ready USF Set (Blast Corps) can downloaded it here. BUT! There aren't all Songs renamed and they aren't tagged or timed.But U or hcs could say something about it.If its okay to name it like I do or if he want it in an other way..
wrldwzrd, you might want to try using cooledit/goldwave or some such, recording the output from winamp into that and watching where the tracks peak. You have to be careful not to go too close to 0.0db since there's not going to be a limiter on USFs and naturally it's going to clip if it goes too much higher. Ultimately though, so long as it's not blaringly loud/has distortion it's probably not going to be much of a problem.
Lunar - I don't have any of that, and I'm primarily a Mac user. I did put up some scripts for setting the volume of USF files on my site, just in case someone else has a better way to determine the correct volume level than I do. I started a thread about it in this forum.
I give up! The game's terrible and sucks. Sorry, but I can't tagg the set. Maybe jelbo wants to do it, or someone else...? Well, again sorry. I'm waiting for new music!
I agree with hcs, the music isn't THAT bad, it's just not as good as the other two installments. The title theme is great! The game itself is just a Mario Party-like game with card battles like Yu-Gi-Oh (or whatever the name is), and not an adventure/jump'n'run like the others AND complete in Japanese.
Ly. le fee! by unknownfile at 6:32 AM EDT on June 5, 2005
Well, I'm going to retag Rayman 2, as I feel that PdZ didn't do too well a job with tags (The Fairy Glade levels = Level 1), so I'm going to change the file names, and maybe fix the times if the fixed version sux.
Erm...... by unknownfile at 10:08 AM EDT on June 5, 2005
PdZ, I believe you forgot the "tagger" tag in the BlastCorps usf tags. I will upload a fixed version soon.
Hey, The Levels are renamed right.You dont have to do that, because the first thing is, Parasyte must check it and hes very busy for a long time.To Point 2, what do u mean with "you forgot the tagger tag"?I always wrote "hcs" in the Information at The Pint "USF by". I dont know the problem u 2 have.
PdZ, it's confusing to people to put the level number, because even I was confused when I downloaded the set.
Here is an example of the "tagger" tag: _lib=gga.usflib title=Taking Care of the Horses artist=Shigeru Araki, Yasumasa Kitagawa, Hirotaka Kurita, Yusuke Kato, Noboyuki Akena game=Goemon's Great Adventure year=1999 copyright=Konami usfby=hcs length=2:37.00 fade=10 genre=Platformer comment=Lost'n Road BGM tagger=Maxwill <--That's the tag!
The reason for this is that in the next version of 64th Note (v0.10), much like in Highly Advanced, there will be a Tagged by field in the editor. The "tagger" tag simply indicates who tagged the set, without using the comments field. A simple psfpoint script would be:
psfpoint "-tagger=PdZ" *.miniusf That would set the Tagger tag to PdZ (that's you). By the way, what is your first language? I'm just asking.
This song is played when you decide to keep the treasure in The Cave Of Bad Dreams. If you select I'll Keep It, Rayman flips the coin and catches it, then teleports to a small island. The island is small and has a small palm tree, the sky is cloudy and Rayman is fat. The camera pans out, and the text "The End" appears on the screen. The game then jumps back to the select menu.
Unknown 3 - The Canopy - Knock Down The Big Pole
This song title is based on the (rather poor) DS port of Rayman 2. When you enter the area, get Globox to go to the flower so that he does his rain dance and grows the flower. While you are doing this, the song will play.
Iam not very good in english, I know. My first language is German.
With the first unknown song, you are right.I didnt recognized it the first time i played Rayman 2, but its the song of the Fake Ending.
And to the Blast Corps Rip.I dont thing , there will be problems with users, w?hich dont understand why i have named this set in the order of the levels. The Thing with the tagger information, i dont understand it at all....
I know VERY good, that my english sounds very bad.But I think, its possible to understand. ;)
Diddy Kong Racing by PdZ at 6:36 AM EDT on June 6, 2005
I will tagg/rename the Diddy Kong Racing Rip of hcs.
Just like Banjo-Kazooie, the music is mushed together for the Overworld map USF.
Oh yeah by RattleMan at 9:50 AM EDT on June 6, 2005
Diddy Kong Racing:
I forgot to mention, I think some some small little beats are missing in some places on these USFs (beginning of dkr15, dkr18, dkr22, etc) that make it sound odd.
dkr1a is mushed together also...I think it's the Character Select Screen.
dkr28 is also mushed.
Also...they sound a little too loud (altough my relative volume is at 2.00, it isn't like that for any other games)
Well, I was able to listen to a few of the JFG songs. One of them sounded pretty good. The rest didn't sound like music at all, but static, and noise. Unfourtunatly, this was as far as I could get before Winamp crashed. However, I'm fairly certain that crash was my fault, and not 64th Note's (I was switching some settings around in a "Modern" skin when it died. I probably did something I wasn't supposed to/the skinner didn't expect).
Anyway, with the one song I did hear, it was pretty good. But one song is not enough to make an assumption for the rest of the music (though if it was, I'd say it's pretty close). Good luck on finishing it. Mouser X over and out.
Well, dang... Like I said, basing it on one song wasn't a good idea. Yah, it's got problems. Not to mention that about 1/2 of the songs I've tried to listen to (so far) don't play anything at all, but instead skip staight to the next song (I'm assuming that's because the silence detection kicked in (I have it set at 6 seconds, I believe, and my prebuffer at 5. As such, to me, it appears to skip straight to the next song)).
Anyway, I find it funny to hear the broken version. Or at least interesting. Good luck on finalizing the generic driver. And then from there, maybe we can do some auto ripping (on the games that use the default driver).
Thanks again for your dilligent efforts in the xSF community. I, for one, greatly enjoy and appreciate the huge music database this opens to those who have very little HDD space, or slow connections (which I have either suffered from, or am suffering from). I'm glad to see that most of my all time favorite N64 games now have their music within easy access. Good luck, and keep up the good work (in all of your efforts, not just USF ripping. I realize you do have a life, after all). Mouser X over and out.
Maxwill has done an excellent job of timing Goemon Mononoke Sugoroku, despite not totally playing through the game. His tags are up in the preliminary directory.
Missing Effects by PdZ at 1:50 AM EDT on June 7, 2005
Like Rattleman said:
There are many effects/Beats which are missing in the USF Version but not in the Original Version.
Crap. I'm wondering if this driver is more trouble than it's worth. At least when I rip straight from the game I know it's set up right.
Missing Tracks by PdZ at 6:53 AM EDT on June 8, 2005
Hm...
It seems, that there are also missing tracks at all.Some Tracks begins like the Original, but then it changes a bit.This change isnt similar to the right ones, and i dont mean the "different version Tracks", where we talked about it...
Iam working on the DKR tagging.A special .bat file will be ready soon.But the cheats in DKR are very bad.So they could not help me.I must play the hole game and get all access to the areas on own.So it seems, i need a little bit longer than usually expected.
Thx Tanookirby, But this wasn't the problem... You are right with this code.With this, u cann listen to all the songs in a Song-menu, but there is a LITTLE problem....
Noone of the songs have a name -.-, only numbers. So i MUST play the whole game.But NOW, iam ready with tagging/renaming/timing FINALLY.Man.. this was very very very hard work.From today on, i hate Diddy Kong Racing ;)
Adam, Ive send u the .bat File.
Bye PdZ
P.S. The only thing to do now is, to fix the Rip, I mean ... to fix the driver Problem, which made the songs not complete enough.There are much songs (almost all) with missing Sound Channels or with channels, which are played to quiet.
I dont like people, who aren't firstly respect the persons, that have the time to tagg and work very hard on a Rip. DO u know that?It was my first Rip.I hope u understood, that I have much freetime, but I help and work for u and other people.U only write a batch Command like "-tagger=Maxwill" and think u have done much work?Think about it and be quiet, as long u have shown also a great work like the Rippers (hcs,Someone42 and other) or the tagger (Maxwill e.t.c.) have done!
Its not easy.Firsth think, then write.If u want to give me an advice, that there was someting wrong or there is something missing in the tagged Rip, then pls be so kind and tell it in a NOT! devaluating form.Thx. And if u have a problem with my english grammatik, then u could talk with me in german if u want.Ohh... u dont speak german?Then SHUT UP pls. Thx
For those unaware, UNKNOWNFILE has most definatly done his fair share when it comes to the emulated audio scene. Just visit http://www.caitsith2.com/gsf/ to see what I mean. Heck, to a small degree, he created his own format so that GBS files can be played as GSFs. Though not exactly true (about creating a new format), it did take some ingenuity to get it done well and right.
Basically, I want to say this: Don't let things go to your head. Just because you tag a set or 50, or rip a set or 50, doesn't give you the right to be a jerk to everyone around you (or even just a few people around you). Sadly, if you have such prestige, it is less likely that people will question your conduct, as they feel you are some "special person of power." However, they are still human, just like you (then again, is there anyone from Mars here? If yes, then that might not apply to you...) and, beleive it or not, you are capable of doing just what they've done. They've just put in a little more work to achieve their goals. They may be able to rip/tag a set in a day or less, but I'm sure you have a specialty that can't be topped as well. Everyone has something worth contributing. Please be humane/kind and consider what others have to say, or provide. I'm sure we can all get along just fine, as long as everyone respects each other.
For those who can't tell, I'd like this aimed a certain someone. However, because of bad judgement, if I was to name this person, there would be consequences that I wouldn't want to deal with. That being said, I really doubt anyone is going to be able to tell who it is I'm aiming this at. I'll just suffice it to say, they haven't posted here. Mouser X over and out.
Interesting theory about Neill. I'm not so sure he's "let it go to his head" since he's always been that way. That being the case, it does give credit to your theory. But no, that's not who I was aiming my post at, if you were wondering.
Oh, and thanks for the tags. Hopefully, the issues with this set will be resolved soon (apparently there's a fair amount. Based on what I read, anyway). Mouser X over and out.
U understood it wrong.I dont think , that iam the king.I only hates, if people zings me in a NON tolerant way.
Ok its OK now.I was a little bit hard to UNKNOWNFILE and he learned now also a little bit more.
bye
Killer Instinct by Blue_firestarter at 4:00 PM EDT on June 14, 2005
Killer Instinct sounds like it was made with both midi and MP3/WAV formats playing together at the same time. Some of the music (midi) sounds clear and some guitar rifts and monkey screams(Compressed)sound a little flat.. I'm not complaning just wondering..
Hcs used a new driver to Rip some Music from games.At the moment, the driver made some mistakes and sometimes the usfs sounds bad or there are missing Sound Channels.Hes working on it, I think.
Hey, MouserX... by SquareTex at 7:30 AM EDT on June 15, 2005
Your "mystery person's" name...wouldn't happen to begin with a Z, would it...? ;)
Thus spake Mouser_X (over and out): "Basically, I want to say this: Don't let things go to your head. Just because you tag a set or 50, or rip a set or 50, doesn't give you the right to be a jerk to everyone around you (or even just a few people around you). Sadly, if you have such prestige, it is less likely that people will question your conduct, as they feel you are some "special person of power." However, they are still human, just like you (then again, is there anyone from Mars here? If yes, then that might not apply to you...) and, beleive it or not, you are capable of doing just what they've done. They've just put in a little more work to achieve their goals. They may be able to rip/tag a set in a day or less, but I'm sure you have a specialty that can't be topped as well. Everyone has something worth contributing. Please be humane/kind and consider what others have to say, or provide. I'm sure we can all get along just fine, as long as everyone respects each other."
Zoopd excersizes this right a lot. These are actual quotes from #psf. I was talking about my craptaps, way back when I did my first rips.
UNKNOWNFILE: Is anyone here? zoopd: You mean the people that are here, or the people that even care?
UNKNOWNFILE: I'm going to update my page now. zoopd: You know you're retarded when... zoopd: You talk about stuff that nobody cares about. zoopd: , your name is UNKNOWNFILE.
Well, so what if I was talking about stuff he didn't care about? That's what the ignore function's purpose is.
hcs, I believe that's in reference to this remark by PdZ, further up in this topic:
"Hcs used a new driver to Rip some Music from games.At the moment, the driver made some mistakes and sometimes the usfs sounds bad or there are missing Sound Channels.Hes working on it, I think."
pDz... You don't need to play the whole game just to tag files.
You can use my old (Yes... it's old because it's older than hcs's Driver) list of Tracknames.
I made this before the USF's came out. Since the USF's for BK weren't availible at this time of the creation, I Googled for a Gameshark code that lets you modify music. Next, I wrote down every track based on the last 4 digits on the Gameshark code. I treated this like a player for N64 music.
When the rips came out, the numbers surprisingly matched up to the codes.
Key: Song names the have ( ) enclosing them means that I don't know what it is.
Music DKR is on the bottom... Sorry for having BK and DK64 in the way
You can play the whole thing if you still want to. I beat the whole game in 5 hours (With Savestates).
I just got an email asking why Blast Corps is missing most music. Is the author just confused because a lot of levels have the same music or is this a legitimate concern?
Goemon Mononoke Sugoroku by hcs at 9:04 PM EDT on June 16, 2005
There are NO missing tracks.The songs Rip is really complete.Ive played the whole game and all levels.If someone want the pj64 Savefile, could ask.Most of the Levels have the same music but sometimes another ending.The Race Levels (without one racing level) have always the same music.Other levels, especially the Bonus Stages have mostly the same music as others.
@AI-IM
I dont know, if I understood it right.You have a cheat/driver which shows u the track-/levelnames of a game?!?!?How is this possible?!
I DONT have renamed all .miniusf so, that ALL LEVELS WHICH CONTAINS THIS SONG, are in the Song name.Because, some songs (like the Race levels) have 10 or more levels which contains this song.So, I renamed the songs with the important,or first level/s which played the song. I Hope u understand what i mean.
He sent me three emails in rapid succession, the last one points out and error, what do you think, PdZ:
Vincent KREBS wrote: I saw only one mistake, the Shuttle Clear tune is actually the track 27, and not the track 29. I have just check on my N64. The two tunes look like each other very much.
Ok, Its right.The Track "27. Blast Corps - Kipling Plant,Geode Square.miniusf" must be renamed to "27. Blast Corps - Kipling Plant,Geode Square,Shuttle Clear.miniusf" and the Track "29. Blast Corps - Tempest City,Beeton Tracks,Shuttle Clear.miniusf" must be renamed to "29. Blast Corps - Tempest City,Beeton Tracks,Shuttle Clear (Intro).miniusf" .Because, if its right in my mind, the Shuttle Clear Mission was a Special Mission (because it was the official last Level in the game), and there was an Intro, where the shuttle flys to the City.But I CANT! recheck this, because u can see this Intro only once. But its right, what he said about the Track used in Shuttle Clear.Could u pls rename it hcs?
Have you heard of a Gameshark or Action Replay device that lets you do limited modification of the game?
I found a few codes that let you change the song that's playing in the game.
The ones I've found are for BK, DK64, and BT (I haven't played with the BT code yet.)
I basically knew every song becuase I played through those games about 10 times. BT also has an ingame Sound Test Menu that shows the titles (Jolly's Jukebox)
DKR was obtained differently. I compared the songs with the MIDI files I've collected as well as some OGG/MP# files ripped from the soundtrack.
Check http://www.rarewitchproject.com for more information. Might give some info on ripping BT and DK64 music.
I'd like to get Donkey Kong 64 and Jet Force Gemini figured out, other than that I have nothing planned. I've been working on other things lately, too.
Hello ! I am the guy who wrote to you hcs about the mistake in Blast Corps Tag. I was sure about the Shuttle Clear music, because some time ago I recorded the whole soundtrack by using Project64, and I well remembered about Shuttle Clear being slightly different from Angel City.
By the way, PdZ, do you realize that you did a wonderful job ? I mean, the track names are so precise !
I'd like to add that every main level has two versions of the "complete" tune, one short version and one long version(except for the Oyster Harbour music), but it doesn't clearly appear because your track order is a bit confused : for example you put "Ember Hamlet (complete)" track very far from the "Ember Hamlet" track, and you don't always say "Ember Hamlet, Obsidian Mile, etc." with the whole level list.
Also, the "Magma Peak (complete)" tune has two versions, which comes as a surprise : of course this short version never appears in the game, since there is no main level associated with the Magma Peak tune. The short versions can be heard when you leave an already completed main levelby entering the BC truck, so it is pointless to look for the short version of the Magma Peak tune. If anyone finds it, please tell me, but I think the programmers just forgot to delete it.
I tagged the whole set a little bit weird.. I know. But I begun to understand what u mean :).Your example with the Tune "Oyster harbour", that it has two version, and I don't renamed it so.Its because, I don't KNOW that there is another ending tune for this level. By The way, i tagged/renamed/timed the whole set in only 8 Days or less.It really COULD have some mistakes.If u are sure with your solutions, told them here and hcs (if he has time for that) could fix it.
<If someone has a problem with my english, can speak german with me :p>
Hi. I didn't mention Oyster Harbour as an example, but as an exception : it's the only "main level tune" which doesn't have a short version of its "complete" track. My example was actually about Ember Hamlet and Obsidian Mile.
But those are really minor things : apart from that your tag is perfect, I told you it's a great work.
By the way, the Track 21 of Diddy Kong Racing, called "Spacedust Alley, Star City" is also the tune of the Credits of the second ending (when you have beaten the second Wipzig). Darkmoon Caverns is only for the first ending credits.
The DKR Rip is not ready.The tagging maybe but the quality is wrong.Hcs knows what I mean (the missing soundchannels in the songs).I Hope, hcs will soon work on that "driver" problem.Because I LOVE the music.Ive ripped all my favourity songs from PJ64 and these have the quality I want.
Yes I've noticed that a lot of songs have missing channels, like the first one, the "rare logo", where you can't hear the sound effects. The Diddy Kong Racing music is one of my very favourite soundtracks, along with Blast Corps and Donkey Kong Country 2. I've always thought that those three ones are really, really amazing.
But you know what, I've also always thought that no body ever cared about video game music as I did, and I am VERY happy to see that I was wrong, and that there are true amateurs who consider David Wise, or Graeme Norgate, or Koji Kondo, as great genious.
Agreed by RattleMan at 7:04 AM EDT on June 24, 2005
I agree, DKR, Blast Corps, and Banjo-Kazooie have some of the best soundtracks around.
Anyway, to revoice my concern, it seems that the DKR USF default volume is set a little too high. It sounds a bit like if you were close to blowing the speakers (from high volume).
I'm glad that you agree with me, RattleMan, I also like the Banjo-Kazooie soundtrack very much. I won't talk about Banjo-Tooie, because I didn't play much : I didn't really like the game, compared to its prequel, and I was very disappointed about Rare's abandoning the "link stuff" between the two games.
Do you like the Donkey Kong Country trilogy soundtrack ?
The Dynamix first N64 intro is up on the main page, note there isn't a link to the set. (The set is 2.34 mb, because I fear screwing it up by optimizing it.)
The trick is that links to preliminary sets are assumed to be in the preliminary set directory, so if I made that text link there it wouldn't actually lead anywhere.
I had played Blast Corps on PJ64 sometime in '04 and found its soundtrack to be very much to my liking - which, after I kinda turned "VGM-scene-aware" this year, I think makes perfect sense, as it was composed by Graeme Norgate, who (co)wrote some of my other favourite VG scores, like Perfect Dark, GoldenEye and Killer Instinct. Still, I continued listening to its music, even after completely done with the game (and I do mean completely, as in 100%, "You can stop now" rank, etc.), thanks to a dude on Kazaa I came across last December, who happened to have a collection of hi-Q mp3 ingame rips from BC and looked much like a complete 21-track OST (a RAR archive of which I later uploaded here). Also enjoyed watching the pretty cool gameplay videos at SDA's Blast Corps section (here) and since I discovered there's such a thing as a USF Winamp plugin, along with your lil setup here and the first cool specimens of your work 'round Xmas, I've been hoping for a BC release to complete the awesomeness - not to mention rid me of the cheesy vocals at the start of each score. To both ends, I must say this USF release has done a most excellent job, so I guess congrats and thanks for the work Adam and PdZ put into it are in order. I did find a couple quirks with the scores naming, however, and basically letting you know is the reason I decided to visit the forums (though it seems I share some common interests with enough ppl here on the side as well).
Long story short, checking back and forth a few times to be sure, I'm now positive that renaming "Race 1" to "Skerries" and "Race 2" to "Sleek Streets" would be the way to go in the interest of better accuracy. You'd think there were more than just one places where the "Race 1" tune was used, but all other miniusfs match with the various SDA levels' movies listing, so I dunno, it could be just that one :s. Also I think the game didn't try to make stages sound more extreme or anything by deliberately naming stuff in funky ways, so "Sylver Junction" could be a typo there.
Okay, nothing else I can think of other than that for a project as tedious as this (so damn many similar sounding pieces in this game, it can make you flip and then some). BTW, I'm kinda stumped with that unknown track myself, even though I played the game more recently than some other folks I know (it was made back in 1997, I believe) - no idea wtf it was supposed to be from, but I'd bet it got left unused in the end. Ah well...
I didn't know anything about a SDA levels' movie listing.So i renamed/tagged/timed the tracks after I played the whole game again.Level after level.I think, it could be better for accuracy, if someone rename the level-usfs Race and Race2, but it seems, that Adam is very busy since 2 weeks or more.Waiting is the only way now.
I'd like to make the changes, but just so that I don't mess up could you list everything that needs to be changed right here in a single post? I can't quite follow your discussions since I haven't played the game. Or if you've made the changes yourself you could just send me the miniUSFs again.
27. Blast Corps - Kipling Plant,Geode Square.miniusf to 27. Blast Corps - Kipling Plant,Geode Square,Shuttle Clear.miniusf 29. Blast Corps - Tempest City,Beeton Tracks,Shuttle Clear.miniusf to 29. Blast Corps - Tempest City,Beeton Tracks,Shuttle Clear (Intro).miniusf 42. Blast Corps - Race.miniusf to 42. Blast Corps - Skerries.miniusf 43. Blast Corps - Race (Completed).miniusf to 43. Blast Corps - Skerries (Completed).miniusf 44. Blast Corps - Race 2,Falchion Field,Dark Heartland.miniusf to 44. Blast Corps - Sleek Streets.miniusf and 45. Blast Corps - Race 2,Falchion Field,Dark Heartland (Complete).miniusf to 45. Blast Corps - Sleek Streets (Complete).miniusf
Heh, they were done at 9 AM but I fell asleep. A working Jet Force Gemini set is now up. There are 8 "silence" tracks, which seems like quite a lot, so if any songs are noticeably missing let me know. Also if anything crashes before looping let me know.
I'm relying on the dozen or so people who requested this to get it tagged.
I listened to a good portion of the Jet Force Gemini rip. It sounds good to me. However, since I've never actually played the game (never got past the 1st level), What I have to say doesn't have much merit.
Thanks for the rip though. Like I said, it sounds great. Oh, and it seems that's there's a few SFX in there (well, probably not. It's short little blurbs, like "get treasure sound (number 26)"). Based on the "soundtrack" you can get at RARE, I'd say all the songs are present in this rip. On the other hand, it has been pointed out quite a few times that the RARE "soundtrack" is horribly incomplete... Obviously, this rip hold a lot more audio.
Okay, that's what I have to say about that. Mouser X over and out.
I'm just hoping it's not like Ocarina of Time, which had two tracks that wouldn't play with the code I isolated, two tracks which were on the OST. It's odd for there to be that many bits of silence scattered about (though maybe they deleted unused sequences to save space and didn't renumber everything sequentially?)