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- by Mouser X at 9:53 PM EDT on July 28, 2005
- Hmmm... I can't see how many results are coming from where, but it almost seems as though some games are trying to compete for the number 1 spot... I've been using a computer lab lately, and I've been tempted to use the computers there to add to my request list, but I feel that that is morraly wrong, since it's like cheating. It makes me wonder how many other people are doing that... Mouser X over and out.
- by hcs at 6:52 PM EDT on July 29, 2005
- Your benevolent dictator, ever a man of the people, has heard your cries for Bomberman 64. Behold! It is in the final stages of rippage.
This marks the 50th entry into the USF Central table.
This rip uses the "S2" format as did Mario Party, though it proved to be quite a bit easier to rip.
- by Juunanagou at 3:34 PM EDT on August 1, 2005
- I have a quick question about the USF format -- would it be possible to create a USF set of the WWF games? From what I know, those games use a special compression algorithm of some sort to fit the wrestlers' lengthy entrance themes onto one cartridge. Please let me know! Thanks in advance.
- by Will at 9:33 PM EDT on August 1, 2005
- ...And how goes Paper Mario?
- by Vague Rant at 11:25 PM EDT on August 1, 2005
- Request list has five entries for "test" and one each for "Mission Impossible" and "Mission: Impossible" (the latter is the correct title).
- by Mazza at 7:09 AM EDT on August 2, 2005
- ...and my Fighters Destiny request has been deleted. Why? :(
- by Clements at 1:04 PM EDT on August 4, 2005
- It would be really great if the Fire Temple music from the European version of Ocarina of Time (and later US versions as well) was ripped, since it sounds much better.
I believe that the 'Islamic-style old people chanting' was removed in the later revisions of the game to prevent conflict from religious communities.
- by Blue_firestarter at 12:44 AM EDT on August 5, 2005
- I think that 'Islamic-style old people chanting' was part of the N64 dev kit because midway used the same sample in Cruisn' World but it was a lot longer.
- by Koji at 11:11 PM EDT on August 15, 2005
- Weee, Extreme-G 2! I hope you make it work properly, hcs, because it'll be worth it. Thank you. :)
- by hcs at 11:23 PM EDT on August 15, 2005
- Does it not work properly now?
- *bump* by Vague Rant at 1:23 AM EDT on September 24, 2005
- Just pointing out a couple of things on the Requests page. There are two requests for "Paper Mairo, one for "Banjo Tooie" (lacks a dash between Banjo and Tooie), two for "Mario Party 1". I think the rest is fine.
I don't know whether this is more annoying or helpful, but oh well.
EDIT: Also, "Quest 64" has a space in it. And I'm not sure whether you'd rather file that under the title "Holy Magic Century", which I believe it was called everwhere bar North America.
edited 5:28 AM EDT September 24, 2005
- by Poobah at 1:28 AM EDT on September 24, 2005
- I think that if they can't be bothered to spell the games' titles correctly, they don't even deserve to have their opinions heard.
- by Gashlin\'s groupie at 8:15 AM EDT on September 24, 2005
- It doesn't really matter how it's spelled because it has already been ripped.
- by hcs at 8:55 AM EDT on September 24, 2005
- I went ahead and removed all the misspelled entries you mentioned (and I got Mortal Kombat 4 and Mario Party 3 while I was at it).
Regarding Quest 64/Holy Magic Century, I've considered adding another column for alternate names (for instance the Pokemons, whatever Bust-a-Move's other name is (Puzzle Bobble?), Mischief Makers, Jet Force Gemini) but I haven't gotten around to it. If someone would compile a list for me then I could just plug it in. It'd only be there to make searches more successful.
- by Vague Rant at 1:18 AM EDT on September 25, 2005
- 3 votes for "1080 Snowboarding", 2 votes for "1080? Snowboarding". The latter is obviously the more accurate title, but I guess people don't know how to type the degrees symbol, so even if you do correct this one, you'll probably still get more results for "1080 Snowboarding" as more people submit votes.
- by marioman at 9:38 AM EDT on September 25, 2005
- I was thinking about this situation just recently, and I think that I might have a solution. It may be a good idea - it may be a bad idea, but here it goes:
So, I go to Google and make a spelling error in my search. Google brings up a search page that has results for my misspelled query. Then, instead of leaving me to figure out why on earth I got results that were not related to my search, a message is displayed that says, "Did you mean [insert search item]?"
Now, could that be implemented on the request page? What you could do is if an entry is within X characters of matching another entry, the request page could display the existing entires that are close to the new entry. So if someone accidently typed "Paper Mairo" the page would come back and say "Did you mean Paper Mario?" Alternately, you could have it say "Your entry '1080 Snowboarding' resembles another entry '1080? Snowboarding'. Do you wish to change your entry to match the existing one?"
Anyway, I think that it would help, and I don't think that it would be a lot of work to implement. (I don't THINK so; I could be wrong.) But anyway, it is something to think about.
Thanks.
- by Poobah at 4:09 PM EDT on September 25, 2005
- I really don't think it's worth the effort. Users requesting should simply be less lazy. If symbols can't be typed, why not just copy the name from the list?
- or... by Prokopis at 4:42 AM EDT on September 26, 2005
- I suppose another way to help people submit valid choices could be through a dropdown box that would list all (Good)N64 verified titles, sans the region variants of course - kinda like the approach most country selection forms utilize instead of letting users from wherever just type in a string according to what their own national or spelling habits would dictate. I do realize this sounds kinda tedious or long-drawn to implement and first shape up and it's obviously not a flawless solution either, as issues like unlisted, lesser known games' variants (a-la F-Zero X 64DD) or homebrew demos or anything else might be missing from such a list, but I suppose in such infrequent cases, folks could just come in here and ask for manual inclusion of such things. There might also be the matter of GoodN64 naming (un)familiarity to consider, like ppl searching for "The World is not Enough", or "TWINE" near the bottom of the list, while the game's proper name starts with "007" or something like that, and keep complaining how their favourite music-featuring game "eeZ n0t derr", but, again, I suspect that's not an entirely insurmountable obstacle either. Also, subsequent lists after the first dropdown one could omit the first choice to disable multi-voting (if desired) and games could easily be stricken from the list and slots relinquished back to users upon ripping of a title. Anyway, just an idea I got as I was reading all this for a package solution; could help, could annoy, so consider with any level of seriousness.
Dat's all, have fun now.
PS: Haven't posted much here lately so cheers to folks registered here in the past few months, helping out with ripping, providing any other kind of support or whatever. BTW, danke for those 64DD tracks too, mr. HCS.
- by hcs at 5:17 AM EDT on September 26, 2005
- The requests list is not important enough to do that work on. If someone will code a matching algorithm (or wants to rewrite the whole thing) by all means do so and I'll put it up.
I deleted the F-Zero X Expansion tracks not too long ago because they hadn't been downloaded in a while and I'm running a little short on server space.
- Added my request.. by number6 at 5:28 PM EDT on September 28, 2005
- First I would like to thank hcs for all he has done here. I really appreciate it.
My 5 votes went to Wipeout 64. I really like the music in that game.
- by Koji at 8:23 PM EDT on September 28, 2005
- A bug in the requests system. Go check it out to find it! A hint: It's in the games list. :P
- by hcs at 9:01 PM EDT on September 28, 2005
- uh, I think you should be able to eliminate your choice... replace it with something else
- by Mouser X at 9:19 PM EDT on September 28, 2005
- I think what he means is that, once a box is filled in, you can't make the entry blank. There has to be something there to fill the text field. I pointed this out when the requests were first put up, but I don't remember what you replied with. As for wether or not it was fixed, I don't remember if you commented on that either. Apparently, it wasn't fixed. I *think* you said that it wasn't a big deal because you would erase any entries that recieved a rip. As such, once the game was ripped, you remove the entry, and the users box is blanked. I think you said that if they want to change the entry, they can always put something else in its place.
Of course, I'm tired and need to go to bed, so perhaps I don't remember quite correctly. Anyway, I think that's what the problem is. If it was supposed to be fixed, sorry about my error. Mouser X over and out.
- by Koji at 2:01 PM EDT on September 29, 2005
- Yes, that's it.
- by Poobah at 4:32 PM EDT on September 29, 2005
- Why not just add an extra vote for one of the games wanted?
- How by number6 at 9:17 PM EDT on September 29, 2005
- HCS,
If your last post was directed at me please tell me how can I eliminate my choice?
- by Mouser X at 9:43 PM EDT on September 29, 2005
- @ number6: I'm pretty sure you can't "blank" the box. Fill it with something else you want, or wait for HCS to remove your entries. At least, that's what it sounds like the problem is. Hopefully that helps. Mouser X out.
- by hcs at 5:29 AM EDT on September 30, 2005
- right, what's the point in leaving any boxes blank?
- by strugglepoo at 4:50 PM EDT on October 2, 2005
- If anyone is planning on doing Duke Nukem: Zero Hour I can help you tag if necessary. :-) There's also a sound test code you can input if that helps any. And there's only a few tracks. Like 8 or 10 or so. Maybe even less.
edited 8:55 PM EDT October 2, 2005
- removing votes by dr worm at 12:34 PM EDT on October 3, 2005
- I also think that you should be able to remove some of your choices. Thats why I voted for the "heres a bug" request. :)
And also, I don't think that any of the request choices should be removed when a prelim is completed, rather, only when it is tagged and given the official "complete" link. A few other people agree with me considering that games such as banjo-kazooie are given votes, despite the prelims already being complete (unless they don't know about the prelims being complete for some reason).
- Second by Yoshinkeru at 1:04 PM EDT on October 3, 2005
- Also, I don't think that any of the request choices should be removed when a prelim is completed, rather, only when it is tagged and given the official "complete" link. A few other people agree with me considering that games such as banjo-kazooie are given votes, despite the prelims already being complete (unless they don't know about the prelims being complete for some reason).
Yeah, that's how I feel too. I've kept some of my votes for games, even after they've gone up; I wait until I feel that they're "complete".
- by hcs at 4:44 PM EDT on October 3, 2005
- That's your prerogative, do whatever the hell you want with your vote. I'll continue to delete them when rips are announced.
- More sounds by Sabrewulf at 8:00 PM EDT on October 3, 2005
- I like the USF of Cruisin World and Cruisin USA
- by hcs at 8:40 PM EDT on October 3, 2005
- There's a USF of Cruisin World and Cruisin USA?
- by unknownfile at 7:34 AM EDT on October 4, 2005
- I think it means he wants it ripped, hcs.
- by Mouser X at 9:44 AM EDT on October 4, 2005
- I think HCS realizes that. I think the real issue here is that for some reason, Sabrewulf associates music from N64 games with USF files, and that they are one and the same. While this is somewhat true on the surface, there's a lot more to be known here. For one thing, N64 music doesn't have to be USF, it could be in MP3 (though usually much larger in size) or even midi (if done well enough).
There's also the fact that, realisticly, USFs aren't actually music files, but that they're actually N64 applications that run a file stored on the ROM, and the result that comes out is audio which we interpret as music. Boy, that's a run on sentence...
Anyway, if you couldn't tell, I'm a little bored. Mouser X over and out.
- by Poobah at 1:12 PM EDT on October 4, 2005
- I think that the poor guy just isn't very good at English.
- by hcs at 1:55 PM EDT on October 4, 2005
- I've heard people ask this about PSF, "I can't find any PSF files on the game disk". The assumption seems to be that the files are already there and all we do is put them online.
I've tried to avoid making the statement "USF is N64 music" to prevent this sort of confusion, but others have said it and that may be the cause of this mindset relating to USF as well.
- by PdZ at 3:00 PM EDT on October 4, 2005
- Well...
Why is that a problem?If someone only download the Plugin and download the music and if he/she has a request, he don't may to know what usf is.He relates USf to N64 Music.It does not make a big difference.
Or does it?
Many people here know, that usf is a format and that the tunes are only a chunk of code which contains the data for an transducer.The result is our beloved N64 Music..
I think that the poor guy just isn't very good at English.
This could also be...
Iam also not very good in english..
- It's deja vu all over again! by Yoshinkeru at 6:09 PM EDT on October 6, 2005
- Say HCS, I think you should clean up the USF central set table; it lists CBFD twice.
- by hcs at 6:12 PM EDT on October 6, 2005
- oops, totally forgot I had put it on there when I tried it.
fixed
- by Vague Rant at 5:49 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- *bump*
On the request page, Star Wars Shadow of the Empire has five votes, whereas the correct title, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire has one (from me!).
- by marioman at 6:23 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- "Fix" yours.
I entered Rush 2049 instead of San Francisco Rush 2049 because there were already votes for the former.
- by Vague Rant at 6:30 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- Actually, a few minutes ago, mine was wrong along with the rest of them. I decided I'd prefer to have the game's actual title as my vote, and accordingly changed it.
- by marioman at 6:43 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- Do what you want. If it were me, I wouldn't care. If you want your game have a high number of votes, you will follow the majority spelling.
- by Vague Rant at 6:46 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- If I were a ripper, I'd rather rip music for people who care enough to know the names of the games they want. I'm pretty bitter, though, I'd probably just ignore those people entirely.
- by Poobah at 10:37 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- If I were a ripper, I'd do the same for people who couldn't get their grammar and/or spelling right.
- by hcs at 10:48 PM EDT on October 25, 2005
- I am a ripper, and I want you both to shut up so I changed them to the "correct" names.
- by marioman at 3:53 AM EDT on October 26, 2005
- Hey, I wasn't trying to argue. I was trying to be a help, but I think that all he is trying to do is keep this topic bumped.
- by Poobah at 11:35 PM EDT on October 26, 2005
- I think the people who pollute the requests section with junk such as 'tag bannjo kerzooiee' should have their IP addresses banned. If posting illiterate nag messages wasn't bad enough, they could at least ask for something that wasn't already available.
edited 3:38 AM EDT October 27, 2005
- by Josh W at 12:03 AM EDT on October 27, 2005
- i agree.
I like the sounds of Turok 3
- I got one request by sonicbhoc at 3:58 AM EDT on October 29, 2005
- Just one request. You probably have too many already, don't wan't to bog you down.
LODE RUNNER 3D
Has anyone else heard of this game? it's fun but MY BROTHER LOST IT. I really don't like downloading roms or anything because I might get into trouble or something.
- by hcs at 9:46 AM EDT on October 29, 2005
- I must say that I had never once considered it, so your request has had the desired effect of bringing it to my attention. We'll see where it goes from there.
- by unknownfile at 10:32 AM EDT on October 29, 2005
- I loved the music from that, and I even disassembled it, but it doesn't use the generic seqp. oh well.
- by Synthesis at 10:39 AM EST on November 1, 2005
- One request for me. Excitebike 64. I've already obtained tags for the game, I just need someone to rip the music for me.
-later
- by Vague Rant at 11:52 PM EST on November 9, 2005
- There are:
Five votes for Star Wars Rogue Squadron, one vote for Star Wars Rogue Spuadron.
Two votes for Star Wars: Episode I Racer, one vote for Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer.
Also, five votes for sex.
- by FireDivine at 1:52 AM EST on November 10, 2005
- hehehe
- by marioman at 4:48 AM EST on November 10, 2005
- Hcs, why don't you just put Vague Rant in charge of keeping the request list in order? He seems to have the time to do it, and he definitely has an interest in making sure that everything is correct. I think that it would be a good idea.
- by Sabrewulf at 6:47 PM EST on November 10, 2005
- What?s wrong with Cruisin World and USA
- by Poobah at 7:32 PM EST on November 10, 2005
- How about you tell us?
We're already well aware that you want the music from these games ripped.
- by FireDivine at 2:18 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- All your base are belong to...
ME!
- by MooglyGuy at 3:24 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- I request Buck Bumble, simply for its kickass title music.
- by FireDivine at 4:35 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- I request your sister
- by hcs at 5:07 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- His sister's name, conveniently enough, is Buck Bumble.
- by FireDivine at 6:53 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- Oh so he requested his own sister?
- by Synthesis at 8:04 PM EST on November 12, 2005
- Yeah, for her kickass title music.
- by PokeParadox at 10:06 AM EST on November 13, 2005
- Yep, his sister gets another request from me...
The title music is pretty kickass :)
- F-Zero X Expansion Kit by TCK at 7:46 AM EST on November 21, 2005
- hcs, in September, said:
I deleted the F-Zero X Expansion tracks not too long ago because they hadn't been downloaded in a while and I'm running a little short on server space.
______________
They were done? I never saw them up. Anyone care to send them to me?
- by Mouser X at 8:44 AM EST on November 21, 2005
- They were MP3 rips, not USF rips. That's why they posed a problem for server space. I have the MP3 rips though. Maybe I can upload them somewhere... As a RAR, it's about 20mb. I'd upload it to either yousendit, or rapidshare, but I'm seeding some torrents now, and I'd prefer to reserve my upload for those. When there's seeds for those, then maybe I'll put them up somewhere. In the mean itme, either be patient, or hope someone else can upload them somewhere. Sorry about that. Mouser X over.
- by Mouser X at 8:28 AM EST on November 23, 2005
- Since there's a new version of 64th Note out, and lots of USF sets being released, I thought that perhaps the requests dealy should be updated as well. Here are some of the things I noticed that should be cleaned up/out. If I'm mistaken, please ignore it. Some games were named slightly ambiguously, so I wasn't sure it it had been ripped ot not.
There's 20 votes for Bomberman 64: The Second Attack. There's 16 votes for Duke Nukem Zero Hour. Turok has 14 votes, while Turok Dinosaur Hunter has 3. Excite Bike has 6 requests. Dr. Mario 64 has 5 requests, and that one is being released when the upload is done. There's also 5 votes for Kirby 64. Is that the same as Kirby: Crystal Star (or whatever the name is)? 4 votes each for Jet Force Gemini and Pokemon Stadium 2. 3 votes each for Bomberman 64 and Bomberman Hero. There's 2 votes for Star Wars: Episode I Racer and 1 for Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer (one uses an "I" the other a "1"). 2 votes for tag banjo-kazooie and tag Banjo-Tooie, with 1 vote for tag banjo tooie, and 1 vote for Banjo-Kazooie. Last, we have 1 vote each for Battle Tanx 2: Global Assault and Lode Runner 3D.
Hopefully, that can help point out some of the changes that might need doing. Mouser X over and out.
- by marioman at 8:37 AM EST on November 23, 2005
- Don't forget the ones that Vague Rant mentioned earlier.
(I still think that we should put him in charge of keeping this thing in order.)
- by marioman at 6:05 PM EST on December 21, 2005
- Woah! Instantaneously there are 87 requests for Gauntlet Legends? I think I have a new candidate for the ban list.
- by hcs at 8:29 PM EST on December 21, 2005
- They were from several different (significantly) IPs, with one exception, and I'll delete the duplicates from him.
I've revised the vote system, now a new cookie will not be given to someone with IP that has already voted, the old cookie will be retrieved and reissued instead,
edited 1:55 AM EST December 22, 2005
- by marioman at 1:50 AM EST on December 22, 2005
- Very good. Thanks.
- by marioman at 4:55 PM EST on February 5, 2006
- *Sigh* When will the over-requesting idiots learn? Check out Snowboard Kids 2 on the requests list. It is up to 66 now, and it was about 40 the other day.
edited 8:59 PM EST February 6, 2006
- by hcs at 4:44 PM EST on February 6, 2006
- What's wrong with Snowboard Kids 2?
- by marioman at 6:08 PM EST on February 6, 2006
- It was like 42 or so the other night. (3rd or 4th on the list.) Now, it is 66 - just above the previous leader. It may be a legitimate, but a 20-point jump sounds fishy to me. Thanks for looking into it.
- by Synthesis at 6:04 PM EST on February 7, 2006
- Well, I'm just waiting for someone to rip Snowboard Kids 2. I was planning on tagging that game next. Hopefully sometime soon.
- by Josh W at 7:40 PM EST on February 7, 2006
- Well im wokring on Snowboard Kids 2, and right now it is being a real bitch. So i probally wont be able to do it anytime in the very near future.
Same goes for Harvest Moon 64, but this one might be a little easier than SK2 because i can find music start points. SK2 is on a merry go round of looping calliness.
Whilst im here ill put the ripping feasability stats for others.
Gauntlet Legends: This one is an even bigger bitch than SK2, almost as high as Turok 2 because it uses dynamic code and something that makes it not work in the batchripper.
Turok 2: This one is having all the problems that were present in Turok 3. I can get some of them working, but only after a large delay after the song has started.
Rush 2: This one is deciding me to only let one song to be able to be ripped. But i havn't spent a lot of time on this one.
I was also generating a complete set for Donkey Kong 64, but there seems to be a handful of tracks that i have had problems with in the past that prevent me from doing a rip of yet.
- by Synthesis at 8:16 PM EST on February 7, 2006
- Yeah. I was looking at both SK2 and HM64. Is it just a problem finding the actual data or is it getting the data to play correctly?
- by Josh W at 8:37 PM EST on February 7, 2006
- What i cant get from them is the music index variables. Once i find out where the numbers come from then they will be able to be played/ripped.
- rip 'starcraft'! by dino at 2:39 AM EST on February 12, 2006
- I like 'starcraft' very much, and there is 'startcraft' made in N64, I have this rom, can you rip the USF?
this game: see this picture:
Link
- by hcs at 11:04 AM EST on February 12, 2006
- Rest assured, we have this ROM, too.
We just don't care.
- by PokeParadox at 12:21 PM EST on February 12, 2006
- lol... Are you in a bad mood?
- by dino at 7:59 PM EST on February 12, 2006
- -_-...yeah, bad news...there is nothing to say...
- by Saberier at 2:41 AM EST on February 13, 2006
- Hi! The Quake 2 music is awesome so can you rip the usf for that rom? Thanks!
edited 7:50 AM EST February 13, 2006
- by Mouser X at 7:55 AM EST on February 13, 2006
- Please take note of the above USF request. Notice the response they got? Yours will be quite similar I believe. In other words, there's already a system in place for requests, and it people do pay attention to it. They just don't have the time to rip anything right now. Either that, or the game is so screwy that they can't rip it right now. So, please use the system that's already in place ot make a request. Thanks. Mouser X over and out.
- by Saberier at 4:08 PM EST on February 23, 2006
- Well, sorry. Thanks for the heads up Mouser.
- by Lunar at 2:00 AM EST on February 25, 2006
- Why have this thread if requests can't be posted on it :S... that seems very misleading indeed.
- by marioman at 4:08 AM EST on February 25, 2006
- This thread did accept requests, but that was before hcs put up the requests page.
Now the requests thread is mostly used for keeping track of the actual requests page. I guess that we should start a new thread for that purpose.
- by Mouser X at 4:10 AM EDT on August 11, 2006
- Well, since there isn't a thread for that purpose yet, I just wanted to point out that the requests page was recently cleaned up, and games that have been ripped have been removed. In other words, if your request was removed, it's because the request in question is already ripped. This does not mean it's tagged, or anything, just that it's ripped. If you want tags for ripped games, then tag it yourself or find someone else who can. Anyway, whether or not this is important to anyone (or even if the requests page is still used), I just thought it should be pointed out. Hope that helps some people a little bit... Mouser X over and out.
- by marioman at 3:15 PM EDT on August 11, 2006
- I request therapy for the person who requested, and I quote: "I AM A MORON!! BAN ME!!!"
- by Mouser X at 3:56 PM EDT on August 11, 2006
- Actually, that guy has been requesting the same thing, again and again and again. It gets deleted, and they simply request it back. The reason it keeps getting deleted is because THE REQUEST WAS FILLED! The game is ripped, and tagged, multiple times. It's not listed as complete, because the ripper hasn't given permission to release it yet. As such, to tell the world what an idiot this guy is, I changed his request to more accurately reflect what he really meant. But you're right, this guy needs therapy. Or, to learn how to download stuff off the internet... Probably both. Mouser X over and out.
- by BazzatManBowlin at 2:37 AM EDT on August 12, 2006
- I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but I've always wondered... in the future, will there be a way to force certain USF sets to play at a higher bitrate (for a more crisp sound)? It seems that the Rare sets in particular default to around 22 kHz, but I wouldn't mind hearing them at 32 kHz or higher.
I'm not begging for it, I've just been curious about that for a while.
- by Mouser X at 4:23 AM EDT on August 12, 2006
- This isn't exactly the right thread to be asking in, but since I have no idea where the thread to ask it in is, (you'd have to know what you're looking for, most likely, as you read the topics of old threads) I'll let it slide.
The answer is no. Straight up and simple. However, there's a few reasons for this (they were talked about in the thread I refered to in the above paragraph, but good luck finding it). The biggest one, is that HCS wrote 64th Note to play N64 song files as close to their original environment as possible. He was, and is, shooting for accuracy in emulating the N64 audio. To upsample it wouldn't be true to the intentions he had in mind.
There's a few other reasons as well, though. Another one, is that the N64 uses some very weird sampling rates, occasionaly (this is why some games don't play properly on some systems, depending on the settings 64th Note uses[that's what "round frequency" is for]). For example, some games actually use 21kHz, and I've seen worse (though I can't remember what, offhand). The reason for these odd samplerates, is because it required using the N64 CPU to render the audio. Most games prefered that the power be put toward graphics, rather than audio. As such, they decreased the samplerate on the audio, to free up more CPU for their game. And, this effects 64th Note, because it basically makes it very very difficult, if not virtually impossible, to support upsampling from the emulation core up. Instead, you'd have to upsample it, after it's been rendered.
And this leads to another good reason that upsampling isn't supported in 64ht Note. Many Winamp plugins already exist that can up sample the audio for you. There's even programs, separate from Winamp, that can do it in real-time as well. Basically, if you really want it to be upsampled, download a Winamp DSP plugin that can upsample it for you. I know there's some really good ones out there, because this very subject has been discussed before, and those plugins were brought up. However, since I pretty much never use Winamp DSP plugins, I have no idea which ones you should try out, or look for. Though, I seem to recall ASIO being one that was mentioned.
Again, I'm not sure which plugins do what, or what you'd look for, so if ASIO isn't it, sorry. Hopefully though, this has been informative, and someone useful to you. Good luck on finding an upsampling plugin for Winamp. Mouser X over and out.
- by hcs at 7:59 AM EDT on August 12, 2006
- It is quite possible to hack games to run at a different sample rate, but it is usually not possible to do the same with USFs. USFs are usually ripped after the audio driver has been set up.
- by BazzatManBowlin at 5:21 PM EDT on August 12, 2006
- I see. Thanks for the input, Mouser X and hcs.
- by mudlord at 10:04 PM EDT on August 14, 2006
- As for dino's request for the Starcraft USF rip, if he has the original PC version, it is very easy to rip the WAV music files from the game's installer EXE(which is also a self-extracting MPQ archive, and the game's main data file), with a MPQ viewer. I've ripped the PC version of Starcraft/Broodwar with this method, and all the music is in very high quality OGG tracks.
And, the N64 version has shorter music tracks than the PC version (mainly to reduce cartridge space)
I hope this info is useful.
- by Mouser X at 5:01 AM EDT on August 16, 2006
- Wow, some idiot really wants to be banned! They added their vote to the "I AM A MORON!! BAN ME!!!" entry... Personally, I hope their request is filled soon (I hope even more that they read this. Seriously, stop it. It's not funny. I lied, it actually is, after I thought about it. Still though, STOP IT). :D Mouser X out.
edited 5:03 AM EDT August 16, 2006
edited 5:04 AM EDT August 16, 2006
(the edits were intentionally left in. I don't normally do that)
edited 5:05 AM EDT August 16, 2006
- by FireDivine at 3:23 AM EDT on August 24, 2006
- and if Crusin Exotica gets ripped to finish off the Crusin games, i'll tag and time it like I said.
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