Would it make sense for F-Zero X to be ripped to "lwav" than usf? by RukarioGyiyg996 at 10:13 PM EDT on April 21, 2018
All of the music is more or less streamed, so shouldn't it make more logical sense to play the music in vgmstream than a USF player?
Infact has anyone ever bothered to rip lwav's of everything? I only ripped Japon and Rainbow Road from the Expansion Kit disk version. I know the rest of the music in the disk version is stereo where as the cartridge had mono only.
I can't use N64SoundListTool properly under Linux as everytime I try to do anything in the dropdown menus it just acts like I moved away from the menu and closed it. Wine's debug channels don't tell me anything useful. So I can't currently make a "rip" myself.
That would mean adding a vadpcm decoder to vgmstream. Not sure if anyone wants to do so but we’re open to submissions 😬.
I’m assuming (or speculating?) they’re doing something funky with these “streamed†games and storing them as a single large sample in a bank. Then the sequence data calls to play that one note which plays the whole stream. Idk since I’ve never actually dug deep into the workings of N64 and USF.
@bxaimc You are correct. They did the same thing to other N64 streamed games like Mortal Kombat 4, and GBA streamed games like Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance.
I just used N64SoundListTool's ability to save 16-bit PCM wav files, then I added the looping point via Wavosaur afterwards.
A straight up vadpcm decoder would be rather neat though. However I'm too retarded to do meaningful programming beyond just UnrealScript, so I can't really offer much...
Umm, Harmony of Dissonance wasn't streamed, it was entirely sequenced, although it mostly used the simple waveform channels and PCM drums. Unless you mean the ending/credits theme, I guess that's streamed? It sounds like it could be synthesized by the PCM mixer.
The only other streamed music N64 title off the top of my head is Magical Tetris Challenge.
A few just stream vocals: 1080 Snowboarding (I think?) Buck Bumble Conker's Bad Fur Day The Goemon games (Mystical Ninja 64, Goemon's Great Adventure, Mononoke Sugoroku)
@kode54 Yeah, I forgot to mention that I was talking about the main menu theme of Castlevania ("Kyrie Eleison"). That was streamed.
@simonmkwii Yes, MK4 is "sequenced", in that the midis are simply triggering loops of streamed music. Use N64SoundbankTool on it and you'll find that the extracted DLS's contain the same songs as any other console version, except chopped up as loops.
Midway tended to do that alot of their n64 ports because that's what they did with their arcade titles. As for fully streamed n64 music, wasn't Sin and Punishment streamed?
@hcs Actually, the vocals in those games are just waveforms triggered by MIDI notes. Or I would assume because that’s how Great Mighty Poo works, and the same goes for the DK Rap.
Also the credits theme from Harmony of Dissonance may have been streamed, as I'm not sure if it was of a quality that could be achieved by software synthesis and samples on the GBA.