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- by hcs at 6:38 PM EST on November 21, 2013
- No idea what the root cause is, seems to be an issue on the Winamp side. There is a very memory-layout-dependent effect of how many extensions I try to register. Doesn't seem to be related to the size of the string (working_extension_list), just the extension count, though the limit that causes disaster seems to differ as I change the size of the string. Very frustrating.
- by RukarioGyiyg996 at 7:45 AM EST on November 22, 2013
- Typical of a corporation like AOL to shut down something that alot of people are still using to date...
Hell why not just GPL Winamp at that point?
... also why the hell does AOL even own Winamp? Fuck capitalism...
- by dissident93 at 8:11 AM EST on November 22, 2013
- @RukarioGyiyg996: nothing forced the orignal developers in 1999 to sell it to AOL (well, except making major $$$). it's actually kind of surprising they supported Winamp up until this point anyway.
- by dj4uk6cjm at 6:39 PM EST on November 22, 2013
- Well this sucks, I have been using winamp for the past 2 years! :( Ahh luckily I still use foobar2000 and xmplay.
- by DrO at 9:57 AM EST on November 23, 2013
- Few comments on things...
The Winamp installer hasn't done what was causing non-MSVC dlls to fail to load since the v5.64 release (as re-basing the dlls which did help to speed up loading was causing intermittent failures with even Winamp's own dlls on Windows 8.x - got to love the OSes only API's breaking things).
I'm looking into what's going on (franpa reported it already) from Winamp's side - whether i can determine the cause and provide a patch i don't know but will see what i can do with the time i have left.
- by DrO at 11:40 AM EST on November 23, 2013
- Quick update after having a look comparing r1015 vs r1016...
The changes in r1016 vs r1015 do seem to help but is correct that there was something funky going on within Winamp with the extension list handling (which was overhauled with the 5.66 release to resolve a number of other long standing issues). I've got a patch for that though no idea if it'll see the light of day or not.
Though i suspect most of the issues with the plug-in not loading would be resolved if it could delay-load the external dlls it needs as i see it's statically linked to them (and does it really need them to play back most of the formats it supports?)
- by TheUltimateKoopa at 4:35 PM EST on November 23, 2013
- Well Winamp 5.0 was released in December 2003, and 10 years later, we've only got to 5.66. Looks like development was too slow. I'm sure we'd be up to like 6.0 or 7.0 by now.
- by Elven Spellmaker at 7:33 PM EST on November 23, 2013
- I can't get Winamp to load properly with vgmstream in the plug-ins directory.
I either get no window, a set-up window (which hangs and looks half loaded) or once I got an old skin of Winamp and an error reporting box pop-up which said it couldn't connect to the server.
r1016 doesn't make any difference to this it seems.
Let's hope DrO's patch will be released before the plug is pulled.
- by hcs at 11:00 PM EST on November 23, 2013
- Thanks for your efforts, DrO. All that r1016 did, effectively, is post half as many extensions. If you already have a whole lot of other plugins that might still be too many, vgmstream normally offers something like 256 extensions.
- by DrO at 8:00 PM EST on November 24, 2013
- TheUltimateKoopa: If you're concerned about version numbers in such a manner than you're sadly disillusioned by a lot of things. Version numbers mean nothing much nowadays - the 5.66 release could have been versioned as 6.66 or something like that if really wanted so you get a major version bump and a funny number.
Elven Spellmaker: That is related to what i was able to patch as vgmstream's massive extension list is mangling the stack due to a bug in Winamp's handling (which is why it's doing all of that weird stuff).
hcs: Ideally you shouldn't need to have to do that sort of thing (and i'll probably re-check the changes with older builds without that change). But if the plug-in is sending back that many extensions, it's probably no wonder people have been having issues loading it with pre 5.66 releases as well.
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