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by MiLŲ at 4:39 PM EDT on April 15, 2014
Couldn't really tell you if there are any other unique tracks. The reason I found the previous two is because you specifically pointed them out.
by Nisto at 5:32 PM EDT on April 15, 2014
Okay. Thanks anyway! :)
by Nisto at 2:06 PM EDT on August 28, 2014
I think I've found some more info about the sfc (S-FORCE) files in SOUND.MGF. In HD Collection there are these ATRAC3 (at3) headers which seems to point to certain samples. I think this is why some samples seems to be "missing" for some sequenced tracks -- because it's not necessarily one bank per track. It's also possible some samples are actually used the same way FX are despite appearances, because S-FORCE was seemingly just used for effects in SH2.
by peronmls at 9:23 AM EDT on August 29, 2014
I would not even bother looking at the HD collection for anything. The music and SFX that play out are fucked up. I almost guarantee there was no audio engineer working on it.
by Nisto at 9:45 AM EDT on August 29, 2014
Yeah I agree. But still, it gave us a lead I think.
by Nisto at 9:53 PM EDT on September 14, 2014
I just thought of something... if we know what the original data of the VAG samples looks like, can't that be used to somehow figure out the algorithm of MSFC (whatever that is) in the HD collection files? Like a bruteforce method or something? Or did someone already figure MSFC out..?

I have no idea how compression algorithms work, but you never know. XD

Is it possible?

edited 3:05 AM EDT September 15, 2014
by peronmls at 8:59 AM EDT on September 15, 2014
huh? what is MSFC?
by Nisto at 10:29 AM EDT on September 15, 2014
It's some compression or encryption format they used on some parts of the files they ported to HD collection.
by peronmls at 11:35 AM EDT on September 15, 2014
what files though?
by Nisto at 11:44 AM EDT on September 15, 2014
All the AT3 files (in the "adx" folder) are fully compressed with MSFC. Also the S-FORCE files. And as I hinted, all the VAGs (.snd files in the "sound_dat" folder) are also compressed with MSFC, but pretty much everything else is intact in the sequenced tracks.

Also
http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3477&view=previous
Where do you see "RIFFT WAVE"? Did you manage to decompress them? If so, how?

Ah maybe they didn't compress them for SH3? Not sure which files you checked in the case above, but I don't have the SH3 section of the BD (few seeders on the torrent I found a while ago).

edited 5:00 PM EDT September 15, 2014

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