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- by unknownfile at 6:28 PM EDT on August 12, 2008
- Here's an idea. Why don't you go get the ISOs yourselves, then rip the music yourselves and distribute it?
We aren't here to be your personal music download service, especially when you spam the links all over your favorite forums.
- by DChronos at 6:24 PM EDT on August 13, 2008
- As in, shunt off about 10 times the bandwidth to OTHER sites in order to get the ISO's, and do what's already done. Sorry, that's dumb.
I've already put up my idea, hcs should just start asking around for a place to host his site elsewhere if he wants to keep this place as the file host. Looking at it, I honestly think this place is pretty damn good seeing as you go over the limit, and they only take the site away for a few hours instead of the rest of the month, so as far as hosting the files goes, this place is pretty damn good about it.
Just get your site elsewhere, and if you want, take the smaller vg musics there as well (as in, the N64 and DS stuff). You can get set up at the new place, and change your dns redirect to the new place, and it'll only take about a day for it to spread across to other dns servers, and be like you never went anywhere, everything will be the same, just that your site will be separate from these files.
What's more, you can get better control over your site and do more with installed modules that servage doesn't provide (perl, for instance), and set up a better system to control access to stuff.
EDIT:
Here's one idea you can enact right now until you get a more permanent solution... Have all your sets up, and deny access to them, only giving access to certain ones you are personally asked for. Then let them get it. I dunno. It would give you complete control over who's getting what, and can tell if there was more than 1 download if you can tell how much bandwidth was used.
Maybe make it work by setting up a certain folder with a password you can change whenever, and when you give someone access to get it, copy it to that folder to let them get it, and then delete it afterwards. Only problem is this would be very time consuming and you'd have to do a lot of pass changes, but if you feel like only letting a few people get anything right now, you can do that as a temporary solution.
edited 6:36 PM EDT August 13, 2008
- by nensondubois at 9:24 PM EDT on August 13, 2008
- See? Uf isn't that smart. A torrent seems like a good idea but not the best due to no one willing to seed it. Megaupload is feasible but hcs will need a premium account for that...
- by marioman at 9:41 PM EDT on August 13, 2008
- @DChronos:
>> I've already put up my idea, hcs should just start asking around for a place to host his site elsewhere if he wants to keep this place as the file host.
Note the bolded text. Maybe hcs does not want to do that?
>> ...and they only take the site away for a few hours instead of the rest of the month...
I think that hcs has to pay in order to get the site back up. Maybe I am wrong about that, but I seem to remember this being the case in the past.
>> Just get your site elsewhere, and if you want, take the smaller vg musics there as well
Why don't you do it? You seem to be a willing volunteer with all of the answers... :P
>> <Insert DChronos's other idea which uses passwords>
I think that hcs wants a more hands-off solution. That is too involved. I say that hcs should perma-ban anyone who leeches the server offline if he is not doing so already.
@nenson: Be nice. We don't need a flame war in this topic.
edited 9:44 PM EDT August 13, 2008
- by hcs at 10:52 PM EDT on August 13, 2008
- I don't have to pay to get the site back, it is just a pain to wait.
I really ought to move to another server, but I'd like to do that with everything, not just the forums. Because I'm sick and tired of servage, but too damned lazy to do anything about it. I don't like the idea of the free site DC has suggested.
Any recommendations of pay hosts? Money isn't the ultimate object, though it is important. Most important is quality. Any with a known excellent reputation?
edited 10:52 PM EDT August 13, 2008
- by Chell65 at 11:46 PM EDT on August 13, 2008
- http://www.leaseweb.com/ - Has hosted a lot of the famous torrent trackers, they've been known to crack down on really big sites but I'm part of several smaller trackers hosted on them and they're running fine with no end in sight.
http://www.ovh.co.uk/ - Well known on torrent forums for being a good place to get a seedbox and their nice bandwidth.
http://www.midphase.com/ - Good pricing and plans but I'm not sure how they feel about copyrighted stuff (In this same vein, Dreamhost would be awesome if they weren't so into taking issue with copyrighted stuff).
So basically anywhere that advertises their service as a potential seedbox should be a-okay in terms of copyright stuff (one example).
If anyone knows of a good torrent site on a reliable host but don't know who hosts them, this tool has worked for me.
Well regardless of whether the links are public or private, having a torrent client serve up the files instead of http links means that whoever is downloading will contribute help seed (even if it's just for the time their download takes) and reduce the load on the seeder(s) and who knows, some seeders might stick around for a while to help out with their favorite sets. So the choice of using torrents or not, regardless of anything else, is an obvious one.
I highly recommend submitting to the top trackers and indexing sites. As long as it has just one seed (read: never is shown as "dead") it will stay readily accessible to anyone looking for such data.
- by hcs at 9:26 PM EDT on August 14, 2008
- Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out.
And yeah, torrents would be nice.
- by DChronos at 12:25 AM EDT on August 15, 2008
- Personally, having Azureus open in the background doesn't harm anything here, so I wouldn't mind seeding on and off, but I'd of course have to have the sets first... well, that is, someone has to start.
As far as a pay host goes, it doesn't matter what pay host you get, if you got people DLing tens of GB of data a day, you'll be taken out. I say, if you have the money to do so, make a server and host yourself.
Another option could be... though I don't know if they will watch your bandwidth or not, but probably, a place that you can rent a server from, and you can rent an entire server to yourself. Check Dreamhost to read about what I mean, just one place that comes to mind that I remember doing that virtual host thing. You're free to do whatever, but I don't know how anywhere else will be about bandwidth and what you put up.
Also, the free site was just for you 1Mb of you forum and web pages so those don't go out when the file host does, there's absolutely no reason to feel guilty about getting that hosted for free. If they couldn't handle it, they wouldn't be running. If they didn't want you to be hosted for free, they wouldn't allow you to be.
Also, an FYI, I know how bad that password thing was, that's why I said myself it would be a sucky time wasting thing, and was just suggesting it as I wasn't leaving anything out.
One last thing, I had been chatting with hcs and he said he was thinking about separating the files and the site so the site stays up. As far as setting up a site elsewhere goes, it would be as easy as zipping all the files from here from the root directory, getting the database files, and putting them up elsewhere in 1 or 2 uploads, it isn't like it would be hard if I WAS doing it, marioman.
- by hcs at 2:15 AM EDT on August 15, 2008
- Even if I have my own server, I have to pay for bandwidth. Buying full access to all the bandwidth a box has is probably going to be out of my price range. A rate limited setup might be usable.
If I have a system that I have more control over, I can run a torrent client there, or a better-controlled HTTP system of some sort.
I'd rather not go with the free site, thanks again but please stop suggesting it. Just as there are things I'd rather not pay for there are some things I rather would pay for. It's more of a mental problem than a rational decision.
Also, I really don't have the option of building a 100+ GB zip file on the server. I don't think preserving the current mishmash of old sets that /bonus had is worthwhile anyway. When I get something up I will use the more organized collection that manakoAT and friends have been so diligent in preparing.
- by Chell65 at 2:44 AM EDT on August 15, 2008
- As long as nothing is lost and the organized collection has everything that was in the previous bonus directory, but is just reorganized, it sounds fine.
When I was hunting around for hosting company recommendations, the suggestion of putting one's own server into colocation with a company like ColoPronto was brought up, much like what DChronos is suggesting. A site that hosts some pretty racy stuff is on there and either ColoPronto isn't aware of what's going on or doesn't care. Might be something to look into.
I'd say figure out how much bandwidth the main site takes per month and then add on how much you want to devote to seeding, with a bit of headroom.
If the entire set of torrents is around 250GB then getting it out capped at 100KB/s would mean one full set will be done each 30 days, but with other seeders and leechers the time should be much shorter.
Please use TorrentZips and post a filelist with SFVs (CRC32s) and/or MD5s of what's inside each TorrentZip archive so jumping in to help seed is simple.
edited 2:44 AM EDT August 15, 2008
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