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- by hcs at 5:50 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- On second thought, doing this by IP won't work too well, especially if we want users to have persistant access to their selections (what with dynamic IPs and all).
Cookies.
- by Mouser X at 6:25 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- Mmmmm... Can I have mine with peanut butter chips?
I don't know how to do any of the stuff you're talking about with the request list, but I'll offer my ideas. I was thinking something more like, have a database that anyone can add an entry to. The entries would be the game names. Then, the database would go through and find the games that have multiple instances. Those would be tallied, and that number would be the number of times that game was requested.
Now, something that will have to be implemented for this would be that it requires people to login and use their "forum" name. Then, if they add the same game twice, the database would be able to tell that "UserNN" has requested the same game twice, and it would cancel out the second request.
Like I said, I really don't know how feasable such an idea is, but I thought something like that would be most efficient. That way, not only is it listed what games people have requested, but also the times those requests came up. And, because it's done by username, you could track who requested what. And you wouldn't have to worry about duplicate requests from the same person either (not that you'd have to with the idea you've posted). One problem is, though, is people creating multiple accounts just to increase the request count of some game they want. Of course, that's going to be a problem with almost anything you make (except that you'll be using cookies, apparently. As such, it will be able to track the cookie, and tell who's who, and whether they have an account or not).
OC Remix tried to set up a request list a long time ago (late 2001). Meridian (you can see his site at http://meridian.overclocked.org) set it up. I thought it was pretty neat, but it allowed people to put in a vote for a game multiple times. In other words, it wasn't to reliable because people would keep dumping in a vote for a specific song for 5 minutes. In fact, there were people who bragged about it on the forums. Eventually, the system crashed. And the guy who did it bragged on the forums. He was, somehow, able to dump like, 1000 votes a sec. or something into it, and it couldn't handle the strain (I don't really remember what happened. It was years ago, and I didn't really understand what they were saying either. My brain re-interpreted it into something that made sense to me, but that wasn't necessarily correct).
Anyway, there's the input I have to offer. And no, I don't think the system you have in mind would crash. I don't remember how Meridian's was set up, but I do remember thinking it was pretty neat, for it's time. Oh well. Good luck. Mouser X over and out.
- by hcs at 8:11 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- I considered tying it into the forum, and in fact I still might decide to do that, but the fact remains that if someone wants to screw with the system there isn't much I can do to stop them. With the cookies you can simply clear it out and be assigned a new one for more fun. With the forum, as you said, you can sign up multiple accounts. If I required you to verify an email address and type in words from an obfuscated image in order to sign up it'd still be exploitable. About all you can do to prevent that sort of thing is to charge for access (even if it's a nominal $1 fee like SDF charges), since for most people it isn't worth the money.
The cookie system seems to be the best way to go at the moment, it's easy (the user doesn't have to do anything special to sign up, just visit the page and an id is automagically assigned). The only reason I'll change it is if people who aren't trying anything evil start having problems with it.
When/if I eventually implement cookies for the forums I may move the authentication over to that.
By the way, the system is up and (seemingly) running here.
- by hcs at 8:15 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- There's nothing there to prevent you from putting in the same game 5 times if that's how you want to spend your 5 votes, of course you can always change that later. Use it wisely.
- So you take requests! by Yoshinkeru at 9:44 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- Splendid! I'll add my own:
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
Donkey Kong 64
Duck Dodgers (in the 24 1/2 Century)
Excitebike 64
Mario Tennis
Mario Party (just the first one; we never got the others)
San Francisco Rush (first and 2049)
I only created this account to post this; I'm not sure if I'll be back. Actually, I frequent the VGMusic boards, so if you wish, look for me there. Until then, I'm out!
- by Mouser X at 9:49 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- I added my 5. Looks like it works pretty good. Just for kicks, I altered my list a few times. I'm sure you'll also notice that there's 2 requests for MM 64. Yah, that's me. I want it pretty bad, and, I figure, hey, it's only 1 extra space that I didn't have a game for. Might as well use it.
By the way, once you fill a line, you can't delete it. Meaning, you can't leave it blank if you wanted to. I added Custome Robo 1 (I want both 1 & 2, but I figured I should probably split them up, since they are 2 different games) and then tried to remove it by leaving the space empty. I clicked submit, and it filled in the empty line with my old Custom Robo 1 entry. Though it's not a big deal, I did think you might want to know about it.
Anyway, looks nice, and especially functional (that's a good description for this whole site. Who needs fancy smancy pictures? It's an emulation site, with this section dedicated to music!). Good work. And, it was pretty fast.
Last question. Where's my peanut butter chip cookie? Or do I get the bland ones everyone else gets as well? Thanks again. Mouser X over and out.
- by Mouser X at 9:51 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- Oh, I forgot to mention, if you want me to, I'd be happy to remove my second request for MM64. That is all. Mouser X out.
- by hcs at 11:28 PM EDT on July 21, 2005
- Empty field handling was kept very basic, just to the point of not breaking the database. Feel free to fill up unused spots with the same game. Five votes to distribute as you will.
- by Vague Rant at 5:11 AM EDT on July 22, 2005
- I stuck mine in. Mario Party 2 doesn't have good music or anything like that, it just struck me as one of the more interesting games in my collection. I mean, Rampage: World Tour would make a boring USF set.
- by hcs at 7:04 AM EDT on July 22, 2005
- Fixed a bug wherein new users would be shown someone else's selections upon starting. It isn't really a problem, but I'd prefer you to start with a blank slate.
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