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- by unknownfile at 3:17 PM EDT on August 21, 2007
- Steal your brother's computer.
- by Mouser X at 7:58 PM EDT on August 21, 2007
- Heh. While he does have 3 computers in his room (that I can think of), I'm pretty sure he'd notice if I "barrowed" any of them. So I don't think that's a viable solution.
In regards to real solutions though, I called Shuttle (they're the ones who made my case, motherboard, and power supply) today, in an attempt to buy a new power supply. I called to late though, so I talked to tech support instead. The guy I talked to told me that if I use a paper clip to bridge 2 wires on the power supply (after unplugging it from the motherboard, of course), then I could test the power supply to see if that is where the problem is. Currently, I'm not actually 100% sure that the power supply is at fault. Indications are that the power supply has gone bad, but it's possible that it's something on the motherboard which is actually at fault, and that whatever that may be is causing the power supply to fail/overheat.
So, now I need to find a paper clip... I think that I'm hoping it's the power supply, since a new one would be cheaper than buying a new system. On the other hand, if it's the motherboard, then now would be a good time to upgrade to a system that can run PCSX2 at full speed (for some games, of course)...
Anyway, that's where I'm at right now. I guess I should hunt down a paper clip, or something like that... Mouser X over and out.
- by marioman at 7:13 AM EDT on August 22, 2007
- Just watch out when testing that power supply. That paper clip method sounds a little unsafe. I am actually surprised that the tech support guy recommended that.
- by snakemeat at 11:48 AM EDT on August 22, 2007
- I have to agree, that sounds like a warranty voiding suggestion; a dangerous one at that.
- by Mouser X at 8:12 PM EDT on August 22, 2007
- Well, I bought the computer over 2 years ago, and therefore it's not under warranty anyway. So, no worry there. Also, I'm not creating a short (which is possibly what the power supply is already suffering from). I'm bridging a connection, so that the power supply thinks that it's connected to the mother board. With older power supplies, this was unecessary, since they'd power up regardless if the were connected to the mb or not. With the "new" power supplies, they're built such that they're partially integrated into the mb. As such, if it's not connected to the mb, it won't power on, because it won't have the mb telling it what to do (the "new" power supplies can regulate voltage, initiate shut down, or complete power off if a problem is detected. However, most of that is controlled by, and depends on, the type of mb it's plugged into).
In other words, bridging the connection will only power on the power supply. And, since it won't be plugged into the mb (I'm sure I clarified that in my previous post), there's no worry of problems to that unit.
On top of that, my dad has been a computer specialist for about 30 years, and he voiced no concern over it, and in fact thought it was a useful suggestion (under the circumstances that is. He wouldn't normally agree with your average tech-support person).
In all, I see no reason to be concerned. My biggest concern is getting the wrong 2 wires connected. However, the tech guy said to bridge the green wire (he said there's only 1 in the whole power supply), with any of the black ones. Also, since it's already unuseable, it's not like I could make it worse.
The end result is, everything I know about power supplies (including personal experience) indicates that it won't power up when not plugged into a mb, As such, some method must be used to force power up, w/out a mb. This is the only method I've ever heard of that would do that.
Do you have any suggestions? Wii text buffer = full, Mouser X over and out.
- by marioman at 9:50 PM EDT on August 22, 2007
- OK, as long as you're being safe about it, and your dad agrees that it will be a good idea, I guess it will be all right. Good luck.
- by snakemeat at 11:29 PM EDT on August 22, 2007
- Sounds like you have researched this pretty well. It sounds similar to how my setup works with two power supplies. There is a special adapter that connects the black and green wires together so both stay on using a single mobo slot. Best of luck.
- by Mouser X at 12:36 AM EDT on August 23, 2007
- In #usf, Supakitsune asked if anyone had a NGC BBA, and PSO 1&2. I'd like to clarify, for him, that he's asking for the original release of PSO, and not PSO 1&2 Plus (I have the Plus v.).
In saying this, I'd like it to be noted that I got the BBA so that I could play Mario Kart online using Warpipe. And, I didn't get PSO for the reasons he's asking for it. I didn't learn of that use until 2 months after I got PSO.
Something to look into, though, is modchips. There are certain ones (I don't know which ones) that can use an added USB connection, instead of the BBA. I've heard that it's considerably faster as well.
Or, you can use the newest method (this is how the Wii games are being ripped). With the right PC DVD drive, and modded firmware for that drive, you can achieve the same results with a computer. Since Wii and NGC disks use the same format (a modified DVD header), both can be ripped with that setup. And no, I have no idea where to get modchips, nor do I know where to find the modified DVD firmware.
Blast, it's getting really annoying not being able to use my PC... On that note, I did bridge the green (PS-ON, according to the pin-out diagram I looked at) wire w/the black (ground, as I had expected) wire, and nothing happened. Thus, I am, again, lead to believe that the power supply is dead (this has been my belief for the last 2 weeks or so. This test simply strengthens that belief).
Also, I ran the test first, since I had no need to research. Everything I've said (excluding the pin-out diagram, which I looked at after I ran the test) is stuff I learned about years ago, when working on other computers. I still have some "old (as in, nearly 10 yrs. old)" power supplies because they can be used as external power supplies, since they don't require a mb to be attached. Excluding my mb, that's how my PC is being powered now. My hardware kept failing on the internal supply. I guess now I know why. Mouser X over and out.
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- by Mouser X at 6:45 PM EDT on August 29, 2007
- hcslogbot = dead. Started sometime yesterday. :( I was reading that. Hopefully HCS will be able to reconnect it soon Mouser X out.
- by Mouser X at 4:49 AM EST on December 18, 2008
- I would just like to point out that I do check the logs occasionally. Thanks HCS and anewuser for the links. I'll definitely look into them more when I have more time. And since I'm mentioning it anyway, here's a link from #usf. I got some good laughs from most of it - http://www.jessethegreat.com/potd.html.
[EDIT] Wow! So, this thread hasn't been touched in awhile... Sorry about that... Well, since it's now "Rise[d] from [it's] grave" I'll also post a link to the logs (since Google doesn't seem to be able to find them). http://hcs64.no-ip.org/logbot/usf/
I'll edit/remove the link if you want me to, HCS. Mouser X over and out.
edited 4:53 AM EST December 18, 2008
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