- WarioWare Smooth Moves sequenced brsar *shoutout to ArcticJaguar725* by Kagemori at 11:56 AM EDT on March 27, 2017
- Ok so it's really nagging me that I can't find a proper rip of WarioWare Smooth Moves anywhere, and decided to try to do it myself. I found very useful infomation around here but no real solution sadly.
I tried this tutorial, but as Mikurotoro said, the tool gives error no matter what. And it's even mentioned that "WarioWare: Smooth Moves is sequenced and it works" :(
I also tried unpacking the brsar, but as expected, it only exported the SFX, not the music itself.
Then I came today with these two threads (https://www.hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php?showthread=45279 and https://hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php?showthread=46639) and ArcticJaguar725 managed to export and convert the sequences succesfully from Animal Crossing City Folk, which uses the same brsar estructure as Smooth Moves.
Unfortunately, there's no explanation on how it was done other than "through Dolphin and some other sketchy methods. I also had control over the MIDI channels, which allowed me to dump the music"
As a last resort I thought about playing the game and dumping the audio directly from Dolphin, but the amount of SFX is crazy in this game to make a decent rip...
So yeah TL;DR, is there some place I can find a lossless rip or if ArcticJaguar725 is around, could you please give some insight on how you did it? Thank everyone very much in advance.
edited 11:59 AM EDT March 27, 2017
Oh I can upload the brsar if needed by the way.
edited 12:13 PM EDT March 27, 2017
- by Jasper at 12:05 PM EDT on March 27, 2017
- Use my vgmtrans build to extract sequences from Smooth Moves: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/magcius/vgmtrans/build/artifacts
- by Kagemori at 1:26 PM EDT on March 27, 2017
- It works!! You are a legend! Thank you so much!
Besides brsar, what other formats does that program support? It's great for getting the soundfonts too.
- by Jasper at 10:47 PM EDT on March 27, 2017
- Well, I mean, all the default vgmtrans stuff is there. There's limited support for .baa files (SMG/SMG2/TP) and JaiInit.aaf files (SMS,WW) along with the associated BMS sequences.
- by Kagemori at 6:34 AM EDT on March 28, 2017
- That's cool. Thanks again!
- by ArcticJaguar725 at 11:03 PM EDT on April 1, 2017
- For clarification, the "sketchy methods" I used actually involved dumping the audio though Dolphin using the exact same methods in the tutorial that you linked to. When I was dumping the ACCF data, I too had an annoying error message that was blocking my screen ("Warning:Unknown mail 00000000, write retry reboot mail.") and I couldn't figure out how to remove it, but it's still possible to dump the audio even in spite of that error. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly how I managed to get the setup to function properly since I just set a save state as soon as I got it to play back properly, but you could probably figure it out through some trial and error.
NOTE: I was not able to launch the dvdroot through Dolphin 5.0 and get it to respond without loading the save state for some reason. It could just be a problem on my end, but idk.
edited 12:07 AM EDT April 2, 2017
- by Kagemori at 1:19 PM EDT on April 3, 2017
- Hey there, thanks for the reply!
Yeah that annoying error doesn't let do anything. I tried several times but to no avail, and I even tried to do it ignoring the error as you say, but navigating the different menus was very complicated and glitchy (managed to get to the player eventually, but it didn't seem to recognize the songs anyway thanks to our dear error).
Right now I'm using the program Jasper offered and while it is painstaking to have to export one at a time the 200+ songs in the brsar AND join the resulting soundfont and midi in another program to finally get a wav, seems to do it's job fine regardless.
I did notice however that some few songs are not very accurate, like in Tomorrow Hill where an instrument is also asigned the singing voice (wtf) or Tower Tennis Terror where some effects are not emulated at all.
In any case, I can see why this hasn't been done already, same with you with ACCF (congratulations for having completed such a grieving task by the way!).
So yeah, regarding the dvdroot thing I might try it but I won't be spending time in trying to make the error disappear. Thanks again for the clarification!
- by ArcticJaguar725 at 1:40 AM EDT on April 4, 2017
- Yeah, a big problem with MIDI+SF2 rips is that they tend to be lossy. MIDIs to my understanding are not capable of storing as much information as the BRSAR sequences, and I have also confirmed this through my own MIDI+SF2 rips of City Folk (and really just about anything else). Granted, they're certainly nice to have, but we may need an xsf format to be introduced in order to deal with the data loss.
Question: when you tried playing things back through the dvdroot, are you sure you were trying to play back actual BGM? I noticed with ACCF that there were a bunch of (possibly dummy) files that didn't want to play back for whatever reason and it also took an incredible amount of scrolling through all of the files to actually reach the BGM.
I'll also note that it's possible to navigate the different menus around by pressing the A and B equivalents over the menus (I think) at the same time and moving the cursor around. This should make it easier to work around the stupid error message.
edited 2:01 AM EDT April 4, 2017
- by Jasper at 7:11 AM EDT on April 4, 2017
- > I did notice however that some few songs are not very accurate, like in Tomorrow Hill where an instrument is also asigned the singing voice (wtf)
This is because MIDI only supports 16 channels and 15 instruments (since 10 is reserved for drums), and Tomorrow Hill goes over both those limits. You can use FL Studio + Fruity LSD to create multiple MIDI ports and LSDs and send them out separately.
Not sure what's going on with Tower Tennis Terror but it's possible the SSEQ files use reverb / echo, which I don't even attempt to transform into MIDI.
- by Kagemori at 2:12 PM EDT on April 5, 2017
- > Yeah, a big problem with...
Oh really, are they lossy? Didn't know that. :/
Tried again the dvdroot, and yeah A+B, while annoying, makes navigating it easier.
The problem I have is that I can't find any sign of a song anywhere. Here's a screen capture of what I see and the dvdroot folder (http://imgur.com/a/zXLrZ).
Am I doing something wrong maybe?
Oh and also, how did you get the ACCF wavs from the dvdroot? Did you just record them with an external recorder (i.e. Audacity)?
> This is because MIDI...
Oh I see, thanks for the info. I'll have it in mind. Yeah with TTT that's likely the issue.
If only I could make the dvdroot thing work though...
edited 2:18 PM EDT April 5, 2017
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