Israeli close-sources his Wiimote drivers for fears of casualties by unknownfile at 1:11 AM EST on December 10, 2006
Read below... and you will laugh.
(00:43:42) CarlKenner: The picture in BlueSoleil looks like a remote. (00:43:45) squeakypants: it's a simple find and replace, but that makes most scripts broken ;) (00:43:55) CarlKenner: But it should report itself as a HID gamepad. (00:44:21) Ch0p: I'm using the vodcomm stack and in device manager (00:44:22) CarlKenner: RawForceX, RawForceY, and RawForceZ still work exactly the same. (00:44:30) Ch0p: it shows up as a bluetooth remote control (00:44:36) squeakypants: cool (00:45:09) Ch0p: every keypress sends 8 bytes down (00:45:44) Ch0p: seems like every action sends 8 bytes (00:46:08) Ch0p: connecting a classic or nunchuk also sends 8 bytes (00:46:20) CarlKenner: It should show up under Human Interface Devices. (00:46:26) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: did you reply to my privmsg? If you're not registered with nickserv I can't receive them. (00:46:37) CarlKenner: I replied. (00:46:46) CarlKenner: I'm not registed with nickserv, I guess. (00:46:59) Ch0p: yeah, under HID it's a remote (00:47:19) The-8: hmm.. anyone messed with changing the wiimote.channel ? (00:47:34) Ch0p: ? (00:47:56) CarlKenner: e-Hernick, if I give you my code, will you add a viral non-military, no-export-to-israel license? (00:48:11) JesterDev [n=Snake@c-67-174-98-36.hsd1.co.comcast.net] entered the room. (00:48:12) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: I will not use your code directly (00:48:28) Virtualball: CarlKenner, why not to Israel? (00:48:31) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: I only intend to read your code and be inspired from this. Perhaps I will translate some of your algorithms to Python to integrate them to WMD (00:48:35) undacova: whats with the no israel thing? (00:48:42) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: But I will not use any part of your code directly (00:49:07) The-8: i set wiimote.channel = wiimote.channel +1 and it only goes up from 51 to 60 or so.. (00:49:43) CarlKenner: Then I'll just explain how I do things rather than providing code. (00:49:55) The-8: but certain cases of moving the nunchuck makes it advance to 255 and die (00:50:21) CarlKenner: The-8, that's interesting. (00:50:27) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: I am dismayed by your refusal. (00:50:35) e-Hernick: I just don't see what you have to lose (00:50:36) Ch0p: I think you need to send some kind of activation bit (00:50:40) e-Hernick: I mean, what's the worse that can happe (00:50:41) Knoton left the room (quit: ). (00:50:42) Ch0p: to get classic or nunchuk (00:50:54) The-8: i cant always consistently repeat it though.. what is the site for the pastebin stuff? (00:50:56) CarlKenner: What I have to lose is preventing people from being killed. (00:51:03) e-Hernick: I sell WMD to the IAF and they use code inspired by yours to die? (00:51:11) e-Hernick: that's crazy (00:51:14) e-Hernick: WMD is harmless (00:51:26) e-Hernick: it's just code (00:51:32) Ch0p: terrorists using wiimotes to guide missles (00:51:32) e-Hernick: for the Wiimote, nothing else. (00:51:33) Ch0p: rofl (00:51:34) abionnnn: its a WMD :P (00:51:40) Ch0p: missiles (00:51:47) abionnnn: fire ze wiimotes (00:51:59) CarlKenner: Nevertheless, being harmless isn't enough. It needs to be proactive to protect the weak and defenseless, otherwise the strong prevail. (00:52:17) Virtualball: If anyone wants to know (00:52:23) Virtualball: tuxido is in #Wiili (00:52:31) shinigami: e-HernicK: good news! (00:52:33) CarlKenner: Anyway, trust me, there isn't any info in the code that isn't on the wiki. (00:52:46) shinigami: I have 1DM -> 2DM transitioning smoothly (00:52:50) CarlKenner: Except the fact that I think the X axis is backwards. (00:53:16) CarlKenner: But I haven't drawn a new diagram. (00:53:19) shinigami: and I know how to do 1DM1 -> 2DM -> 1DM2 and vice versa, I think (00:53:22) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: I can add a warning to the WMD header, in order to be proactive in protecting the weak.. Let's see. "WMD Warning: You are Strongly Advised not to use this Software to Kill or Destroy Anything or Anyone. Use of this Software for Military Purposes is NOT RECOMMENDED." (00:53:30) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: would that be enough? (00:53:55) e-Hernick: I mean, the different between your warning and mine (00:54:00) abionnnn: killing people not recommended... lol :D (00:54:00) e-Hernick: is that I know people won't listen to me (00:54:09) e-Hernick: And I don't have a grudge against Israel (00:54:41) e-Hernick: I remember that linux audio synthesizer software (00:54:49) e-Hernick: zynaddsubfx (00:54:51) e-Hernick: or something like that (00:54:55) CarlKenner: It's not for you to decide, it is for the majority of people from Israel to decide. And the majority of people from Israel are non-jewish palestinians. (00:55:09) e-Hernick: anyway it had a license that said "YOU CAN'T USE THIS SOFTWARE TO MAKE MUSIC THAT IS AGAINST JESUS" (00:55:09) CarlKenner: Anyway, I can't discuss it here. (00:55:25) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: It's not for you to decide who can use your software or not (00:55:49) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: people will use it just to spite you, and people will feel spite for you for asking for what you have no control over (00:56:04) CarlKenner: People can't use it to spite me. It has copy protection. (00:56:16) CarlKenner: It won't run inside Israel. (00:56:16) e-Hernick: horrible, horrible. (00:56:22) Ch0p: rofl (00:56:24) abionnnn: lol (00:56:25) Ch0p: it calls home? (00:56:29) CarlKenner: No. (00:56:36) CarlKenner: No privacy violations. (00:56:38) Watercan: but i don't believe we extraadite people from isares for breach of licence... (00:56:39) e-Hernick: it has a timebomb (00:56:43) abionnnn: they can always just fake their hostname can't they? (00:56:44) e-Hernick: it explodes if it detects that it's in israel (00:56:51) CarlKenner: No hostile code either. (00:56:54) e-Hernick: so you say (00:56:57) e-Hernick: but you won't say your code (00:57:03) Ch0p: Error: You live in isreal (00:57:09) Watercan: lol (00:57:10) e-Hernick: Ch0p: and then your computer reformats (00:57:10) CarlKenner: It just shows you a web page and exits in Israel. (00:57:20) e-Hernick: Ch0p: it accesses the web to register the violator with CarlKenner (00:57:23) Virtualball: CarlKenner, do you hate Jews or sumtin? (00:57:24) CarlKenner: The web page explains the boycott. (00:57:25) e-Hernick: so he can as he promised, sue them (00:57:42) abionnnn: not everyone in israel supports their murdereous government (00:57:42) Watercan: see if you get www.google.israel (00:57:44) Ch0p: carlkenner: and the geniouses at the idf can't reverse engineer the single instruction that checks? (00:57:46) e-Hernick: Well, I think that GlovePIE is dangerous software that will call back home if it feels you're an israeli (00:57:49) Ch0p: change the jmp to a nop (00:57:55) CarlKenner: The web page is a public web page, not owned by me, so I can't tell who accesses it. (00:57:55) Ch0p: hit it with a little nop slide (00:58:02) Ch0p: slap that nop on there (00:58:04) e-Hernick: There is no idea as to what GlovePIE really does (00:58:20) e-Hernick: It has a black box of discriminatory code (00:58:20) CarlKenner: Actually you can (and should) use a firewall. (00:58:21) Watercan: what about the peaceful israelis? don't you want them to put down thier arms and play with their wii's? (00:58:25) e-Hernick: which can destroy anything (00:58:42) abionnnn: I know a few israelis who detest the actions of their government, how are they handled in the license? :P (00:58:58) Watercan: is that why it's not open source? (00:58:58) Ch0p: it can detect the detestment (00:59:01) e-Hernick: abionnnn: they are denied use of GlovePIE.. (00:59:03) CarlKenner: They can't use it until they are successful in their protests. (00:59:11) wiiaustralia left the room. (00:59:12) abionnnn: Hehehe (00:59:14) Virtualball: dude, I have a friend who is from Israel and she's awsome, and hot! And I'm Jewish too (00:59:16) squeakypants: you guys don't bother (00:59:18) abionnnn: fair enough (00:59:21) e-Hernick: abionnnn: look, perhaps in Israel the resistance movement would succeed at overthrowing the regime if they had access to GlovePIE (00:59:26) Ch0p: Virtualball: you've just been added to the blacklist (00:59:28) squeakypants: carlkenner is a brick when it comes to this (I've tried and you all know already) (00:59:29) Ch0p: aka the jewlist (00:59:34) CarlKenner: People from Israel can use it, just not inside israel. (00:59:35) abionnnn: e-Hernick: lol :P (00:59:38) squeakypants: lol ch0p (00:59:39) Virtualball: Ch0p, :( (00:59:46) squeakypants: i'm part of that list! (00:59:50) Virtualball: Lucky I use Macs (00:59:53) Watercan: schindler's list? (00:59:53) e-Hernick: CarlKenner should SHARE HIS CODE (00:59:59) Ch0p: agreed (01:00:04) Virtualball: agreed (01:00:05) squeakypants: e-Hernick: squeakypants should AGREE (01:00:06) shinigami: agreed (01:00:07) abionnnn: Mac = Jewish system :P (01:00:07) Virtualball: seriously (01:00:08) squeakypants: and he does :) (01:00:12) Ch0p: CarlKenner: what if I reverse engineer the lock out of it and release a version for isreal? (01:00:13) CarlKenner: CarlKenner shares his specs. (01:00:20) Virtualball: you're only killing the community (01:00:28) e-Hernick: GlovePIE is closed source software with HIDDEN ANTI-ISRAEL CODE... Until we have the source code, we cannot trust glovePIE. (01:00:28) Ch0p: would you change your mind (01:00:32) Ch0p: after seeing how futile it is (01:00:43) squeakypants: lol (01:00:44) Ch0p: if not I really won't bother (01:00:48) Ch0p: unless someone in isreal requests it (01:01:07) Ch0p: but more likely than not it's a trivial thing to do (01:01:11) squeakypants: hey Carlkenner: http://69.46.18.147/index.php/User:Squeakypants/sandbox (01:01:15) squeakypants: my code is back up! (01:01:17) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: you have brought these issues to the community.. As much as we appreciate your contributions to the wiki.. your refusal to share code and your license terms are a moral problem to us all (01:01:39) abionnnn: its up to him (01:01:42) CarlKenner: I know. But I have a moral problem with your license agreement. (01:01:48) Ch0p: you hate freedom? (01:01:51) abionnnn: there's a thing called freedom :P (01:01:51) Ch0p: me too. (01:01:53) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: you have a moral problem with every license agreement that isn't bigoted (01:02:07) squeakypants: carlkenner: go to http://69.46.18.147/index.php/User:Squeakypants/sandbox#Test_Rotation and test it for me :) (01:02:09) CarlKenner: Yes I hate freedom for the powerful, because it prevents freedom for the weak. (01:02:20) abionnnn: e-Hernick: to be exact, its not bigoted (01:02:21) Virtualball: Im sorry, but I'd rather wait for another program then use GlovePIE (01:02:22) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: you hate the GPL and the public domain (under which I both license my code freely) as much as you have a problem with MICROSOFT and every other computer company for selling to Israel (01:02:30) abionnnn: e-Hernick: he's not targetting a race/religion, just a location (01:02:31) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: your problem isn't with freedom (01:02:39) Ch0p: HE HATES JEWS OK (01:02:40) Virtualball: it spreads hate (01:02:40) Ch0p: LAY OFF (01:02:43) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: you hate all licenses equally, no? (01:02:44) Ch0p: LET HIM HATE WHO HE WANTS (01:02:44) squeakypants: lol (01:02:53) Watercan: but it is a location of a religion/race (01:02:54) CarlKenner: Ch0p, don't let people hate jews. (01:03:00) e-Hernick: Ch0p: should be tolerate intolerance? (01:03:06) squeakypants: NOW you guys side with me :-P (01:03:15) abionnnn: he could have easily said south africa a few years ago (01:03:21) abionnnn: and many of you would have supported him (01:03:28) Watercan: why? (01:03:30) e-Hernick: abionnnn: no (01:03:31) ***undacova reads up (01:03:36) e-Hernick: I support freedom for all (01:03:37) Watercan: lol (01:03:39) e-Hernick: even Kim Jong Il (01:03:42) vkapadia: i really dont care. as long as the glovepie updates keep coming, and working for me, he can have all the anti-israel crap he wants (01:03:42) Ch0p: I don't care the reasons behind it (01:03:46) Virtualball: Im sorry but I can't support something that supports hatred (01:03:47) abionnnn: e-Hernick: me too (01:03:50) Ch0p: vkapadia: it dosen't work for me though (01:03:51) shinigami: dude (01:03:54) Ch0p: and therin lies the problem (01:03:55) e-Hernick: I license my code freely to Kim Jong Il... (01:03:56) Ch0p: It could work (01:03:57) Ch0p: easily (01:04:02) e-Hernick: shinigami: do you have victory> (01:04:04) squeakypants: ch0p: the thing is (01:04:07) Ch0p: but I can't even tinker to fix it (01:04:08) squeakypants: he isn't being antisemetic (01:04:08) shinigami: how about we stop bickering and play with a goddamn wiimote :D (01:04:09) shinigami: yes (01:04:13) shinigami: i do indeed (01:04:17) e-Hernick: shinigami: can you send me the latest version? (01:04:18) squeakypants: he's just being stupid :-P (01:04:20) Ch0p: shinigami: sure, I'll get right on it (01:04:24) squeakypants: but it's not harmful (01:04:27) Ch0p: wait (01:04:33) CarlKenner: Anyway, do some research about Israel and you will understand why it is in the same category as South Africa was. (01:04:41) shinigami: e-Hernick: just a second (01:04:43) Ch0p: CarlKenner: regaurdless of the reasons for it (01:04:44) CarlKenner: The boycott isn't permanent. (01:04:45) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: do you think that Israel is much worse than North Koeran (01:04:48) squeakypants: so I figure his help is worth more than me giving a fuck about an issue that really doesn't matter (01:04:48) Ch0p: don't you think it's futile? (01:04:57) squeakypants: ch0p: that's the point (01:04:59) squeakypants: it's futile (01:05:00) CarlKenner: Yes I do think it is much worse than North Korea! (01:05:07) e-Hernick: wtf (01:05:07) squeakypants: so it's not worth giving a fuck (01:05:12) CarlKenner: North Korean NEVER EVER invaded anyone. (01:05:12) shinigami: e-Hernick: I have 1DMx -> 2DM -> 1DMx down but not 1DM1 -> 2DM -> 1DM2 (01:05:16) Virtualball: whoah (01:05:17) vkapadia: i'm with squeakypants on this (01:05:19) Watercan: then why can nkoreans use it? (01:05:24) squeakypants: vkapadia: right on (01:05:25) Virtualball: CarlKenner, they are testing nuclear devices (01:05:26) abionnnn: except South Korea ... :P j/k (01:05:32) Ch0p: CarlKenner: I think we should boycot use in the US (01:05:35) Ch0p: for invading iraq (01:05:37) abionnnn: Virtualball: israel has nuclear weapons and signed up to the NPT (01:05:39) CarlKenner: They are the same country (01:05:43) abionnnn: Virtualball: so that's a moot point at best (01:05:44) CarlKenner: Anyway, I'm going. (01:05:46) e-Hernick: same country (01:05:49) squeakypants: carlkenner: wait, wha? (01:05:53) CarlKenner: Do some research and you will understand. (01:05:54) e-Hernick: CarlKenner: HAS BANNED USE OF GLOVEPIE IN THE USA (01:05:57) Virtualball: and said a few years back "we have rockets that have the ability to reach the west coast of the US" (01:05:59) CarlKenner left the room (quit: ). (01:06:04) e-Hernick: CarlKenner HAS SAID: USA IS THE SAME COUNTRY AS ISRAEL. (01:06:05) squeakypants: you guys scared him away (01:06:08) Ch0p: man (01:06:09) e-Hernick: THEREFORE GLOVEPIE IS BANNED IN THE USA (01:06:12) Ch0p: I don't understand that (01:06:13) undacova: lol (01:06:14) squeakypants: no he was saying north and south korea (01:06:20) Virtualball: dude (01:06:22) shinigami: that was really funny (01:06:24) Ch0p: I have to go drop another 50 dollars on a different brand of bluetooth dongle (01:06:24) Virtualball: hes crazy (01:06:24) shinigami: hahahaha (01:06:29) Ch0p: because he won't fucking open source his code (01:06:36) e-Hernick: I've asked him repeatedly to see his code (01:06:39) Ch0p: because he thinks the IDF is going to use WIIMOTES TO BLOW UP PEOPLE (01:06:41) Ch0p: what the fuck (01:06:43) Ch0p: like really