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by SmartOne at 1:32 PM EST on January 31, 2009
I CANNOT find the Mother3i and Mother 3+ CD's anywhere (to buy.) The best free downloads available are terribly low-quality VBR MP3s undoubtedly encoded from the lossy iTunes store suck format. They even clip. Is there a store selling these? Or a hidden lossless download somewhere?
by hcs at 2:24 PM EST on January 31, 2009
Ragnarok Online II OST, #gamemp3s rip
by CyberSpark at 5:22 PM EST on January 31, 2009
Thank you hcs. As much as I would love to have this in lossless, I've had such trouble finding even the mp3s. It's much appreciated. :)
by fridgey at 7:54 PM EST on January 31, 2009
I'm fairly certain regarding Mother3i, and I _think_ regarding Mother3+, that they were digital only releases... meaning no (legit) cd's available to buy and no lossless rips to be made. There's a chance I'm wrong, but that's what I recall :/
by Dais! at 8:02 PM EST on January 31, 2009
Mother3i was definitely digital only, but Mother3+ was apparently both digital and CD (HOBO 0004). This is according to VGMDB, but I'm definitely certain that the major method of distribution for both albums was digital.
by hcs at 12:48 AM EST on February 1, 2009
Searching for the cat# revealed a few sites selling it, this one seems to ship worldwide.
by SmartOne at 12:47 PM EST on February 1, 2009
Thanks. I'll check it out.
by SmartOne at 5:17 PM EST on February 1, 2009
Does anyone want to burn their iTunes Mother3i to a CD, rip and encode to FLAC, and upload it somewhere? ;)

The MP3s floating around sound terrible.
Listen for yourself:
http://www.4shared.com/file/58371513/2024a9bd/Mother3i.html

They're 128 kbps VBR or something.

edited 5:23 PM EST February 1, 2009
by CyberSpark at 12:29 AM EST on February 2, 2009
Most all of the audio files offered on iTunes are in .mp3 format. Once a .wav file is encoded in mp3 format, it loses data that can not be retrieved. Decoding an .mp3 to .wav (lossless format) and then encoding to.flac (compressed lossless format) will do nothing but make for larger files with no gain in audio quality.

You're probably better off finding a way to bypass the DRM protection (didn't iTunes discontinue that already) or, if you do burn the files to CD, rip and encode the files using LAME with V0 encoding (more info), this will allow for near-lossless sound quality form the original Mp3s but keep a small file size.

Really though, lossless is only useful when encoding from other non-compressed lossless formats such as .wav.

edited 12:34 AM EST February 2, 2009
by SmartOne at 1:38 PM EST on February 2, 2009
Hey, I'm quite aware how lossy junk works.

I thought iTunes were still protected AACs. (Why would a dumb person convert to MP3 if they were MP3 originally?) Thus, the easiest way to un-DRM them would be to burn a CD. Never perform lossy encoding twice! LAME V0 is lossy and will further degrade quality. After the initial sin of lossy-ness, the best thing you can do to preserve 100% quality (other than playing the original files, which we can't do thanks to DRM) is to raw-ify, then encode to FLAC for playback/storage.

So if someone feels so inclined, that would be great.

edited 1:43 PM EST February 2, 2009

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